{"_id":"65dc15540d35c30da05796ee","date":"2022-11-05T04:15:15.000Z","u":1708922196633,"name":"Anonymous","country":null,"board":"cuckquean","tripcode":null,"capcode":"","subject":"","message":"One thing I notice is that there is a distinctive inconsistency as to whether or not humiliation is included in this fetish. \n\nObviously any given individual is inclined to have their own very specific brand of a fetish with consistency only becoming apparent across large sample sizes. The only thing I find odd is that any given point in time I swing wildly between being convinced either way as to whether a humiliation angle is the norm with CQ. It is generally the norm among male cuckolding to have comparison and humiliation take center stage. Confident male cucks certainly exist but a fair portion of them tend to simply be swingers mislabeling themselves as they rarely stay monogamous too in those situations\n\nSo I figured I'd get it from the cuck horses mouth. Do you get off on a sense of inferiority and comparison with this fetish? If it's less direct than that what are some qualifiers and details?\n\nFor myself I could write a fucking memoir on the finer details but to simplify I want to see men I like fuck women who are better than me. The sexual draw of them being better than me is not the same as me getting off on myself being worse. I'm unsure as to if it's even possible to properly detail what I mean by that other than saying it's a completely shameless sense of inferiority if such a thing is possible. Often I remove myself somewhat from the situation, I merely want cute guys I like to fuck other women regardless of if I'm acknowledged or included. It's closer to infatuation than overtly sexual sometimes but always psychologically rewarding. Like a humiliation centrist or some shit. Some pseudofreudian-esq bullshit is probably afoot here for me but who am I to attempt to understand what makes me coom? \n\nI'm sure this question has been asked to death but I'm decently new to the community. I'm just interested to hear individual thoughts and to get at least some confirmation of the average","messagehash":"CWglwaVl8snRqy7kv7d+V9rKaJ6Lb0ixA3JbzoeRk1g=","nomarkup":"One thing I notice is that there is a distinctive inconsistency as to whether or not humiliation is included in this fetish. \n\nObviously any given individual is inclined to have their own very specific brand of a fetish with consistency only becoming apparent across large sample sizes. The only thing I find odd is that any given point in time I swing wildly between being convinced either way as to whether a humiliation angle is the norm with CQ. It is generally the norm among male cuckolding to have comparison and humiliation take center stage. Confident male cucks certainly exist but a fair portion of them tend to simply be swingers mislabeling themselves as they rarely stay monogamous too in those situations\n\nSo I figured I'd get it from the cuck horses mouth. Do you get off on a sense of inferiority and comparison with this fetish? If it's less direct than that what are some qualifiers and details?\n\nFor myself I could write a fucking memoir on the finer details but to simplify I want to see men I like fuck women who are better than me. The sexual draw of them being better than me is not the same as me getting off on myself being worse. I'm unsure as to if it's even possible to properly detail what I mean by that other than saying it's a completely shameless sense of inferiority if such a thing is possible. Often I remove myself somewhat from the situation, I merely want cute guys I like to fuck other women regardless of if I'm acknowledged or included. It's closer to infatuation than overtly sexual sometimes but always psychologically rewarding. Like a humiliation centrist or some shit. Some pseudofreudian-esq bullshit is probably afoot here for me but who am I to attempt to understand what makes me coom? \n\nI'm sure this question has been asked to death but I'm decently new to the community. I'm just interested to hear individual thoughts and to get at least some confirmation of the average","thread":null,"email":"","spoiler":false,"signature":null,"address":null,"banmessage":"","userId":null,"files":[{"filename":"31eddd8d958089723678e45dcb1f88dfb6f82aebc9705bc011fdf948a6c7eb70.jpg","spoiler":null,"hash":"31eddd8d958089723678e45dcb1f88dfb6f82aebc9705bc011fdf948a6c7eb70","originalFilename":"20221024_220847.jpg","mimetype":"image/jpeg","size":86077,"extension":".jpg","phash":"381fcfc0c2c7e5e0","sizeString":"84.1KB","thumbextension":".jpg","geometry":{"width":745,"height":1003,"thumbwidth":190,"thumbheight":255},"geometryString":"745x1003","hasThumb":true},{"filename":"796a6bb312ddfde9820a8412720e5ffca99a2fc4af2fc5162ad2cc405f390d4e.jpg","spoiler":null,"hash":"796a6bb312ddfde9820a8412720e5ffca99a2fc4af2fc5162ad2cc405f390d4e","originalFilename":"FgBjOXjakAEY4Up.jpg","mimetype":"image/jpeg","size":123506,"extension":".jpg","phash":"02fecbc1f0f0d199","sizeString":"120.6KB","thumbextension":".jpg","geometry":{"width":1080,"height":1186,"thumbwidth":233,"thumbheight":256},"geometryString":"1080x1186","hasThumb":true}],"quotes":[],"crossquotes":[],"backlinks":[{"_id":"65dc15690d35c30da05796f2","postId":4311},{"_id":"65dc15ba0d35c30da0579701","postId":4328},{"_id":"65dc15bf0d35c30da0579702","postId":4329}],"postId":4307,"replyposts":6,"replyfiles":2,"sticky":0,"locked":0,"bumplocked":0,"cyclic":0,"bumped":"2022-11-06T01:10:58.000Z","replies":[{"_id":"65dc15690d35c30da05796f2","date":"2022-11-05T06:22:09.000Z","u":1708922217536,"name":"Anonymous","country":null,"board":"cuckquean","tripcode":null,"capcode":"","subject":"","message":"<a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/4307.html#4307\">&gt;&gt;4307</a> <small>(OP)</small> \nIt's a common point of confusion; there's a few notes on it over in out terminology thread at <a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/1000.html#1000\">&gt;&gt;1000</a> which I'll quote here:\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;&gt;What's all this \"compersive\" and \"humiliation\" I keep seeing mentioned?</span>\nCompersion is joy in another's pleasure. You already know what humiliation means. Compersive cuckqueans do not feel humiliated by their men fucking other women and get their kick out of the joy they feel while he does it. Humiliation-driven cuckqueans feel humiliated by their men fucking other women and get their kick out of this humiliation. The two tend not to understand each other very well, and humiliation-driven cuckqueans tend to ignore the existence of their compersive cousins.\n\nIt isn't a hard-and-fast distinction—some cuckqueans take elements of both, and you'll find discussion on this scattered all around /cuckquean/, such as this one from <a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/3433.html#3467\">&gt;&gt;3467</a> that was both shitposting and answering a larger question:\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;&gt;Both compersive and humiliation content are still cuckquean after all, and for me at least those two evoke VERY different feelings.</span>\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;Perhaps that's why there was a small war over the term in the early 2010s. From our old terminology thread:</span>\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;&gt;The humiliation/compersion thing was actually the subject of a kind of holy war within the community some years ago.</span>\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;&gt;When Jenn Coney (or some name like that) first started her blog around 2009-2010 and proclaimed herself the template cuckquean, severe humiliation, degradation and a stripping away of choice were a mandatory part of the term. The community was made up mainly of her followers and fans. Many had had their partners cheat on them and then post-rationalised it as something they wanted. There was a lot of competition to find even deeper levels of degradation or humiliation, the idea being that if you didn't you weren't a good cuckquean.</span>\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;&gt;When a group of cuckqueans emerged and said \"actually we're not so much into playing the helpless victim\", some nasty scrapping ensured. The original group accused the new group of not being cuckqueans because they weren't deprived of choice and the new group accused the original group of not being cuckqueans because they were really just being abused.</span>\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;&gt;Eventually that all settled down when Jenn Coney disappeared from the Internet and common ground was found, but the \"cuckquean = humiliation\" mark has been left on the fetish's perception ever since.</span>\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;This conflict bubbles back up from time to time in attempts to use terms like \"hothusbanding\" for compersive cuckqueaning, from the term used by male cuckolds who don't think they're being humiliated by having their wives sleep with other men (\"hotwifing\"), but this never catches on.</span>\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;I think these splits in terminology happen because we intuitively recognize that humiliation cuckqueaning, compersive cuckqueaning, and lesbian cuckolding are different in kind. Humiliation cuckqueaning and compersive cuckqueaning are slightly different in kind, but not so much that they don't want to share a term. (Which, let's face it, is a really really good term: Cuckquean. Feels great in the mouth.) Plus, they also tend to blend: Many cuckqueans of one type will borrow a couple of elements from the other type.</span>\n\nI personally am very strongly compersive and do not experience nor desire humiliation: I really, <span class=\"em\">really</span> like it when my boyfriend fucks. Turns my insides all happy and melty. I don't so much like the idea of being compared to other girls as I love the idea that they're different from me. No matter how good I might be, I can't be <span class=\"em\">different</span> to me... I trust this makes sense. (It's also one of the reasons I like kemonomimi and monster girls, aside from them being super-cute.) I completely understand and respect humiliation-driven girls, though, of which this board has a few. I think if a vixen who had got the wrong idea tried to \"help\" by talking down to me my first instinct would be to try to find a way to let them know they didn't need to without embarrassing them too badly.\n\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;Often I remove myself somewhat from the situation</span>\nLike you, I do not have to be directly included in things to enjoy myself—though I do enjoy being able to watch in person—but I can't be ignored; I need to know my BF's thinking of me too, and that he's looking forward to coming home to me where I can meet him at the door and sniff him like a madwoman. Once he had a vixen leave a lipstick mark on his cock for me to find; <span class=\"em\">that</span> nearly melted me into a puddle.\n\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;I merely want cute guys I like to fuck other women regardless of if I'm acknowledged or included.</span>\nAnother quean has posted with a similar fetish signature to yours, but I don't know if she's still around. Perhaps she'll be able to provide more on how she feels if she is.\n\nOh, and welcome!","messagehash":"wwQWgg5G38ulT38jIp1j+yKHSn8z5sq/w8zNQxNsN9g=","nomarkup":">>4307\nIt's a common point of confusion; there's a few notes on it over in out terminology thread at >>1000 which I'll quote here:\n>>What's all this \"compersive\" and \"humiliation\" I keep seeing mentioned?\nCompersion is joy in another's pleasure. You already know what humiliation means. Compersive cuckqueans do not feel humiliated by their men fucking other women and get their kick out of the joy they feel while he does it. Humiliation-driven cuckqueans feel humiliated by their men fucking other women and get their kick out of this humiliation. The two tend not to understand each other very well, and humiliation-driven cuckqueans tend to ignore the existence of their compersive cousins.\n\nIt isn't a hard-and-fast distinction—some cuckqueans take elements of both, and you'll find discussion on this scattered all around /cuckquean/, such as this one from >>3467 that was both shitposting and answering a larger question:\n>>Both compersive and humiliation content are still cuckquean after all, and for me at least those two evoke VERY different feelings.\n>Perhaps that's why there was a small war over the term in the early 2010s. From our old terminology thread:\n>>The humiliation/compersion thing was actually the subject of a kind of holy war within the community some years ago.\n>>When Jenn Coney (or some name like that) first started her blog around 2009-2010 and proclaimed herself the template cuckquean, severe humiliation, degradation and a stripping away of choice were a mandatory part of the term. The community was made up mainly of her followers and fans. Many had had their partners cheat on them and then post-rationalised it as something they wanted. There was a lot of competition to find even deeper levels of degradation or humiliation, the idea being that if you didn't you weren't a good cuckquean.\n>>When a group of cuckqueans emerged and said \"actually we're not so much into playing the helpless victim\", some nasty scrapping ensured. The original group accused the new group of not being cuckqueans because they weren't deprived of choice and the new group accused the original group of not being cuckqueans because they were really just being abused.\n>>Eventually that all settled down when Jenn Coney disappeared from the Internet and common ground was found, but the \"cuckquean = humiliation\" mark has been left on the fetish's perception ever since.\n>This conflict bubbles back up from time to time in attempts to use terms like \"hothusbanding\" for compersive cuckqueaning, from the term used by male cuckolds who don't think they're being humiliated by having their wives sleep with other men (\"hotwifing\"), but this never catches on.\n>I think these splits in terminology happen because we intuitively recognize that humiliation cuckqueaning, compersive cuckqueaning, and lesbian cuckolding are different in kind. Humiliation cuckqueaning and compersive cuckqueaning are slightly different in kind, but not so much that they don't want to share a term. (Which, let's face it, is a really really good term: Cuckquean. Feels great in the mouth.) Plus, they also tend to blend: Many cuckqueans of one type will borrow a couple of elements from the other type.\n\nI personally am very strongly compersive and do not experience nor desire humiliation: I really, **really** like it when my boyfriend fucks. Turns my insides all happy and melty. I don't so much like the idea of being compared to other girls as I love the idea that they're different from me. No matter how good I might be, I can't be **different** to me... I trust this makes sense. (It's also one of the reasons I like kemonomimi and monster girls, aside from them being super-cute.) I completely understand and respect humiliation-driven girls, though, of which this board has a few. I think if a vixen who had got the wrong idea tried to \"help\" by talking down to me my first instinct would be to try to find a way to let them know they didn't need to without embarrassing them too badly.\n\n>Often I remove myself somewhat from the situation\nLike you, I do not have to be directly included in things to enjoy myself—though I do enjoy being able to watch in person—but I can't be ignored; I need to know my BF's thinking of me too, and that he's looking forward to coming home to me where I can meet him at the door and sniff him like a madwoman. Once he had a vixen leave a lipstick mark on his cock for me to find; **that** nearly melted me into a puddle.\n\n>I merely want cute guys I like to fuck other women regardless of if I'm acknowledged or included.\nAnother quean has posted with a similar fetish signature to yours, but I don't know if she's still around. Perhaps she'll be able to provide more on how she feels if she is.\n\nOh, and welcome!","thread":4307,"email":"","spoiler":false,"signature":null,"address":null,"banmessage":"","userId":null,"files":[{"filename":"e7f445ed1877a24faf9eb83a9eb7c6e43cf4d611a205b006e44b985bd6d1e4f5.jpg","spoiler":null,"hash":"e7f445ed1877a24faf9eb83a9eb7c6e43cf4d611a205b006e44b985bd6d1e4f5","originalFilename":"grope_small_boobs.jpg","mimetype":"image/jpeg","size":377549,"extension":".jpg","phash":"f8d0d4f0f0f0f0f0","sizeString":"368.7KB","thumbextension":".jpg","geometry":{"width":1114,"height":1600,"thumbwidth":178,"thumbheight":256},"geometryString":"1114x1600","hasThumb":true}],"quotes":[{"_id":"65dc15540d35c30da05796ee","thread":4307,"postId":4307}],"crossquotes":[{"_id":"65dbc7030d35c30da0578ba2","thread":1000,"postId":1000},{"_id":"65dc043a0d35c30da0579446","thread":3433,"postId":3467}],"backlinks":[{"_id":"65dc15aa0d35c30da05796fe","postId":4325}],"postId":4311},{"_id":"65dc15aa0d35c30da05796fe","date":"2022-11-05T14:01:56.000Z","u":1708922282879,"name":"Anonymous","country":null,"board":"cuckquean","tripcode":null,"capcode":"","subject":"","message":"<a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/4307.html#4311\">&gt;&gt;4311</a>\nGood detailed answer, thanks\n\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;Sniff him like a madwoman</span>\n\nVery good taste you've got there","messagehash":"3ll/SIOI0kVkdhV3LulXPPjAj/D/MD4IXoPKISk7m0k=","nomarkup":">>4311\nGood detailed answer, thanks\n\n>Sniff him like a madwoman\n\nVery good taste you've got there","thread":4307,"email":"","spoiler":false,"signature":null,"address":null,"banmessage":"","userId":null,"files":[],"quotes":[{"_id":"65dc15690d35c30da05796f2","thread":4307,"postId":4311}],"crossquotes":[],"backlinks":[],"postId":4325},{"_id":"65dc15ba0d35c30da0579701","date":"2022-11-05T17:12:17.000Z","u":1708922298735,"name":"Anonymous","country":null,"board":"cuckquean","tripcode":null,"capcode":"","subject":"","message":"<a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/4307.html#4307\">&gt;&gt;4307</a> <small>(OP)</small> \n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;the cuck horses mouth</span>","messagehash":"NYeSd23aZkGlMHswNkuskWZvg9/ZLWFTvrfHyv+OYZ8=","nomarkup":">>4307\n>the cuck horses mouth","thread":4307,"email":"","spoiler":false,"signature":null,"address":null,"banmessage":"","userId":null,"files":[{"filename":"714734a5360107ef499275721603bc5fc48224e0ac9d70aa8f04bc83316d7466.jpeg","spoiler":null,"hash":"714734a5360107ef499275721603bc5fc48224e0ac9d70aa8f04bc83316d7466","originalFilename":"31719A8C-1749-404D-85B7-4882430B7251.jpeg","mimetype":"image/jpeg","size":327674,"extension":".jpeg","phash":"fc30f981f44caf03","sizeString":"320KB","thumbextension":".jpg","geometry":{"width":769,"height":1000,"thumbwidth":196,"thumbheight":256},"geometryString":"769x1000","hasThumb":true}],"quotes":[{"_id":"65dc15540d35c30da05796ee","thread":4307,"postId":4307}],"crossquotes":[],"backlinks":[],"postId":4328},{"_id":"65dc15bf0d35c30da0579702","date":"2022-11-05T17:20:42.000Z","u":1708922303769,"name":"Anonymous","country":null,"board":"cuckquean","tripcode":null,"capcode":"","subject":"","message":"<a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/4307.html#4307\">&gt;&gt;4307</a> <small>(OP)</small> \n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;I want to see men I like fuck women who are better than me. The sexual draw of them being better than me is not the same as me getting off on myself being worse.</span>\nMakes complete sense to me. It’s a little like worship, maybe, or infatuation like you said - you’re getting off on admiring them. Definite sexual charge there, yeah.","messagehash":"Lxia0srqUenFB48Wj8OoK+cBOspgpqXjb5NSuRHGihA=","nomarkup":">>4307\n>I want to see men I like fuck women who are better than me. The sexual draw of them being better than me is not the same as me getting off on myself being worse.\nMakes complete sense to me. It’s a little like worship, maybe, or infatuation like you said - you’re getting off on admiring them. Definite sexual charge there, yeah.","thread":4307,"email":"","spoiler":false,"signature":null,"address":null,"banmessage":"","userId":null,"files":[],"quotes":[{"_id":"65dc15540d35c30da05796ee","thread":4307,"postId":4307}],"crossquotes":[],"backlinks":[{"_id":"65dc15c40d35c30da0579703","postId":4330}],"postId":4329},{"_id":"65dc15c40d35c30da0579703","date":"2022-11-05T17:50:42.000Z","u":1708922308784,"name":"Anonymous","country":null,"board":"cuckquean","tripcode":null,"capcode":"","subject":"","message":"<a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/4307.html#4329\">&gt;&gt;4329</a>\n<a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/4307.html#4329\">&gt;&gt;4329</a>\nIt's hard to describe but it's not really a worship of the women. I'm not gay. They're not quite props per se either. More like I enjoy the vicarious nature of his excitement, infatuation and desire for them but I don't hold those feelings towards them myself","messagehash":"1vVAbfnjG5iYxC68fBQrG3ddBLYQmUzAfPQ4azSWYYQ=","nomarkup":">>4329\n>>4329\nIt's hard to describe but it's not really a worship of the women. I'm not gay. They're not quite props per se either. More like I enjoy the vicarious nature of his excitement, infatuation and desire for them but I don't hold those feelings towards them myself","thread":4307,"email":"","spoiler":false,"signature":null,"address":null,"banmessage":"","userId":null,"files":[],"quotes":[{"_id":"65dc15bf0d35c30da0579702","thread":4307,"postId":4329}],"crossquotes":[],"backlinks":[{"_id":"65dc16100d35c30da0579711","postId":4346}],"postId":4330},{"_id":"65dc16100d35c30da0579711","date":"2022-11-06T01:10:58.000Z","u":1708922384654,"name":"Anonymous","country":null,"board":"cuckquean","tripcode":null,"capcode":"","subject":"","message":"<a class=\"quote\" href=\"/cuckquean/thread/4307.html#4330\">&gt;&gt;4330</a>\nOh! That sounds like a kind of compersion, but I don’t mean to tell you what you’re feeling or anything like that. Maybe you can write us that memoir if you’re interested in laying it out in more detail.\n\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;it's not really a worship of the women. I'm not gay.</span>\nApologies for clumsy language, I didn’t mean it like that. By “them” I meant the cute guy and the better-than-you girl together. Fucking. Like,\n<span class=\"greentext\">&gt;wow, she’s hot, they look so good together like that, he must be having so much fun, this is the best</span>\nThat sort of thing. The girl’s better than you, the guy’s having fun with her, and that makes you feel good. Simple. And he’s cute and she’s hot, so it’s almost like admiring art of Greek gods, to exaggerate for effect.","messagehash":"LCp7r8fON8Fl9ucfQBKN8ScjWmWjxLdkKD1IuJS+xcE=","nomarkup":">>4330\nOh! That sounds like a kind of compersion, but I don’t mean to tell you what you’re feeling or anything like that. Maybe you can write us that memoir if you’re interested in laying it out in more detail.\n\n>it's not really a worship of the women. I'm not gay.\nApologies for clumsy language, I didn’t mean it like that. By “them” I meant the cute guy and the better-than-you girl together. Fucking. Like,\n>wow, she’s hot, they look so good together like that, he must be having so much fun, this is the best\nThat sort of thing. The girl’s better than you, the guy’s having fun with her, and that makes you feel good. Simple. And he’s cute and she’s hot, so it’s almost like admiring art of Greek gods, to exaggerate for effect.","thread":4307,"email":"","spoiler":false,"signature":null,"address":null,"banmessage":"","userId":null,"files":[],"quotes":[{"_id":"65dc15c40d35c30da0579703","thread":4307,"postId":4330}],"crossquotes":[],"backlinks":[],"postId":4346}]}