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Oi, mateys, any true pirate has some spooky stories to share! Strange things be seen alone at night on the high seas...

Share yer tinfoil theories, paranormal experiences, or other creepy stuff ITT.
Just to get the ball rolling,

PARANORMAL
>Have you ever experienced something paranormal? What was it like?
>What paranormal phenomenon do you believe in? Are there any that you don't believe in?

TINFOIL
>What tinfoil theory do you believe in? Why?
>Are there any tinfoil theories that you really disagree with? Why?

GENERAL
>What was the creepiest thing that you ever experienced?
>What's something that scares you for no real reason?
>What tinfoil theory do you believe in?
the crackhead theory that everything will turn out alright
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Boardmin please there's so many aliens you're going picmix crazy.

>What tinfoil theory do you believe in? Why?
I genuinely believe that women may have a level of psychic ability that men do not possess. I have a lot of experience where women around me experience higher rates of dejavu compared to men. 

>Are there any tinfoil theories that you really disagree with? Why?
The government is hiding evidence of this giant ancient civilization because they don't want humans to find out the truth. I think the idea of one giant globe-spanning ancient civilization is stupid and ruins a lot of the fun about human archeological history. Also there is no reason to hide that and there are plenty of other reasons to hate the government.

>What was the creepiest thing that you ever experienced?
Me and my friend went to explore an abandoned university and while we were hiding from the cops who were staking the place out we heard this really loud breathing / sniffing. We were behind a chain-link fence that was barely covered in ivy so we should have easily seen the animal doing it but couldn't. Then we heard this scuttling noise. The breathing sound was sort of a mix between a large dog and horse. We try to chalk it up to a raccoon but it definitely didn't sound like one.
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>Have you ever experienced something paranormal? What was it like?
There’s an old asylum I went to a few times as a kid that was abandoned in the 90s or so. A fire ripped through there and killed some of the patients in higher containment as they couldn’t be moved (the male ward kek, iirc every female was A-okay). Once while I was there as a kid I was looking at one of the cordoned off yards that are inaccessible, they were most likely used as outdoor areas for more violent patients. There was a spooky old ass light post that had fallen over and the glass was smashed, it caught my attention because I thought I saw the lightbulb flickering. After looking at it for a while I felt something like a hand brush/hold my ankle. I turned around and a pepsi can that was on the floor behind me was rolling uphill. 
I haven’t had anything that spooky happen to me but given the context that was the most convinced I’d ever been that I had experienced something ‘off’ 
>What paranormal phenomenon do you believe in? Are there any that you don't believe in?
I believe that there aren’t ghosts, but more-so entities. I don’t think the apparitions or hauntings we often hear about are a sentient or even malicious thing, but some kind of dimension rip where we see or feel entities and souls of those who have passed. I’m not that spiritual or anything and am not a huge stickler that ghosts are real, I think a majority of stuff is faked - But I’ve seen people who’s experiences genuinely just give you chills and don’t seem like they’re lying whatsoever.

>What tinfoil theory do you believe in? Why?
That there is a satanic group at the heart of hollywood, but I don’t think any of them genuinely believe or practice ‘satanism’, I think it’s more like something you have to do at a certain point and are encouraged by others to do the same if you want to keep your career. Kinda like they disguise it to them as selling your soul to the devil when really it’s just selling yourself to a corporation.
>Are there any tinfoil theories that you really disagree with? Why?
I think the moon landing was real, I can totally understand why people have doubts about it and I do too whenever I go down a rabbithole but it would have been near impossible for them to have faked stuff like that at the time, in my opinion

>What's something that scares you for no real reason?
Crabs and crustaceans but only when in the water. I hate the idea of one emerging from the depths and grabbing my toe  \(˚☐˚”)/  I do find some crabs cute when they’re dry though
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< Thank you nonnie!! :chiyolay: - Chiyo-chichi, laying down

It's solved and all that, but I have a fascination with schizophrenics on the internet especially the ones that post repetitive things. Like this:

Hi, I am camera one.
Camera one is the first camera in space.
I purchased camera one from Colesman for 20 million dollars.
I am still looking for the people at the other end of me and trying to recover my things.
When I invented Freon, I spent 100 million dollars to build labs. I am the lock on the computer or the one who formulates the boards for electronic equipment.
Maybe with your help, this I can see some income this year and recover stolen federal equipment.
Thank you, Mr TV and The Kid.
Since 1958 engraved on my body, since birth is a heart.
My mother appeared as Elvis in newspapers.
Please try to get back to me.

Unfortunately, this one has died. But according to some people on twitter they got actual paper letters from him. He also used to write
Old leddit thread about this one here but I've basically already covered it. There's a cute song though. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/3clmq8/help_identify_this_weird_and_cryptic_recording/

The gangstalking nonnie on CC's /x/ is also super fascinating to me, especially her megabased theory of "ugly guy, pretty woman" couples being street theater specifically to anger her. Whenever I see one of these couples, I think of her.

Lastly there's this weird album on soundcloud that's a weird rip of Moon Colony Bloodbath. I unironically like their take on Emerging and in general think their artistic merits are higher than the mountain goats. I just wish there was a backstory as to why exactly this was made or why it was posted? https://soundcloud.com/raathim/sets/irc-colony-bloodbath
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>What tinfoil theory do you believe in? Why?
Lots of them. From the parasite/worm pill to DIT, to the most people are addicted to propaganda/fear porn and are being trained, the major social media websites groom people to be more botlike so actual bots are more convincing, TTI is a major source of CP and new victims for the elites, Coronavirus frequently changed names in order to refresh the search results and make it easier to "reset" peoples opinions, North Korea is actually supported by most world governments but they play theater since NK is a testing ground along with SK, and many more...
>Are there any tinfoil theories that you really disagree with? Why?
The majority of moidish psyopped ones that you see them share so easily in most websites, like Q or (insert obvious government propaganda here), think of theories like Elon Musk is against the establishment and he will save us all from censorship by buying twitter (right after twitter being exposed as gov tool with covid even if it was already fucking obvious before the confirmation) instead of him being controlled opposition ad twitter just having it's opinion reset to the public.
>Paranormal experiences
I have frequent precognitive dreams and too many instances where there seemed to be some kind of "foreshadowing" in my life to the point where it would be gaslighting myself to not believe there is something paranormal.
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>Have you ever experienced something paranormal? What was it like?
A couple years ago someone close to me died. The days before I had nightmares about a woman at my bedroom window banging and crying. I'm pretty sure it was a banshee. I haven't see her since so I'm pretty sure everyone I care about is going to live forever

>What tinfoil theory do you believe in? Why?
New Zealand secretly runs the world. They are small and isolated and keep "accidentally" being left off maps because they don't want to get noticed

>What was the creepiest thing that you ever experienced?
I visited an old asylum once. It's one of the few times I've felt an instinctive dread
>Have you ever experienced something paranormal? What was it like?
I didn't personally experience this, but my mum does. She has these weird prophetic dreams sometimes where basically she predicts deaths/serious illnesses. The most recent one was last week, when she had a dream she was talking to my grandma who died a couple of years ago. Grandma was telling my mum that a cousin of hers was very ill. Then after my mum woke up, she called her brother who she hadn't talked to in a while, and he told her that the same cousin she'd been talking about in her dream was in hospital suffering from cancer. 
She's had a lot of dreams like that over the years. She'll have a dream that someone is sick or dead, then not long afterwards they'll die or we'll find out they're ill. Although I will admit she's had a couple of misses (according to her dreams my Dad was supposed to have died of covid), but 99% of the time they come true.
My mum reckons it's because when she was 11, she had a silver ring she would wear all the time. Her family were very poor and living in a third world country so it meant a lot to her and she wore it everywhere. The family that lived next door were even poorer, and one day their daughter asked to borrow the ring. Not long after that someone else from that family died. Every time my mum asked for her ring back the girl she lent it to would always make up some excuse and my mum never saw the ring again after lending it to her. She thinks that because the family were so poor, they didn't have anything else nice to bury with the woman so they used the ring. Mum thinks the dead woman must have been buried with the ring, and that her energy must have somehow gotten tangled up with a dead person's.
I don't know if it's all just coincidences or if my mum really does have a gift, but it's freaky. Especially because my mother is not otherwise psychic or interested in the esoteric in anyway (if anything it's the opposite, she's a superstitious North African and wouldn't even let me use the bathroom at night growing up because she thinks genies live in bathrooms as according to local superstitions they like places with water, including bathhouses, so I guess personal bathrooms count as genie hangout spots too).
>>1308
What are parasite/worm pill and DIT? All I could find online was Dual Inheritance Theory
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>>1367
DIT is short for the dead internet theory, you've probably heard of it. The parasite/worm pill is a chan theory that most humans nowadays tend to have untreated parasites, and it's kept that way on purpose, most commonly pinworms. Think of every pet having regularly scheduled deworming and easily available parasite treatment, meanwhile if you're a person the doctors will make you jump through hoops from personal experience. It also makes you more unhealthy, less energetic, demoralized and more easy to propagandize to.it also allegedly makes men hyperfocus on anal and that everyone who eats ass is on it kek
Ofc since it's a 4chan theory they gotta say it causes male homosexuality and all the ills in the world and satan=worm and that the joos can remotely control you from your butt or some shit.
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>>1371
One thing that gets me about DIT is that reddit now vs reddit of 5 years ago is much, much more bot infested and they're more visibly bots or genAI as compared to the past. How are the bots getting worse at pretending to be human? 

The worm thing is interesting. I don't deworm my cats because they're indoor, but I worm my sheep and goats. Even for worming sheep, you're never aiming for total elimination of the worms, you're just knocking back the population to reasonable numbers. We're also always fighting against causing drug resistant varieties. All the ass stuff puts me off, and society seems more and more obsessed with anal and putting their mouths on buttholes, so I could buy it tbh. I remember at one point people were encouraged to go barefoot everywhere, and I figured they'd all get hookworm. Not just that but there's anecdotal "evidence" that those with autoimmune disorders should introduce small parasites in little patches, it's called Helminthic therapy.
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>What tinfoil theory do you believe in? Why?
I believe in gangstalking, but I think most people claiming to be gangstalked are just schizo. I believe that it happens to activists, opposition politicians in countries with repressive governments, and people who know things they shouldn't. But I think it would be extremely rare to happen to normies and the vast majority of not all of the people in the gangstalking subreddit are either schizo, on drugs, or just paranoid. 
That having been said, I could see a possibility of rich/powerful moids gangstalking normie women they have sexual obsessions with, or were dumped/rejected by just to torment them.
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>>1387
>How are the bots getting worse at pretending to be human? 
NTA but at least for reddit I'd say it's because the AI is trained on reddit posts which likely increasingly include other genAI-generated posts as well. Could it be a case of habsburgified AI?
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>>1415
Bots fed on bots get prion diseases... the real self exists in the fake self.
>>1387
My personal theory is that reddit mods are so fucking powermad and reddit users so retarded that the AI needs to be lobotomized so it can continue on the site without being banned. Think of all people going "this person just typed a long response! Must be AI!!"
>>1371
i think more and more people being interested in anal is because of porn brainrot. but obviously you could argue people are more susceptible to porn addiction due to parasites too.
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I've always wanted to see a ghost. I tried super hard to get hired at this hotel local to me because it's allegedly haunted. I wanted night audit. I did like 5 interviews with them but never got in (none of my job history has anything to do with hotels so fair...)

Have any nonnies seen a ghost?
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>>2566
No but I'd love to summon one :chiyoclasp:. I get you, it's such a bummer when you can never get visit those cool haunted places or nothing happens when you do. Beware some hotels manufacture rumors that they're haunted for marketing.
>>2566
>Have any nonnies seen a ghost?
No, I haven't, but my mother and grandmother have. When my mother was growing up, the house she and her family lived in was haunted. A priest was hired to bless the house, but it didn't work. My grandmother ended up setting it on fire and burning it down after the new house was built to get rid of what was inside.
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>>2566
>Have any nonnies seen a ghost?
only the ghosts from my past :chiyochichi:
>>2606
Imagine being a ghost and just chilling at the house you died on, only for new people to move in, decide they don't like you, and burn the entire place down. Just kill me again at this point. :chiyocry:
it’s late here and i want to read a scary story and get scared do any nonas know of any please. a bedtime story for me please nonnies?
>>1388
>could see a possibility of rich/powerful moids gangstalking normie women they have sexual obsessions with, or were dumped/rejected by just to torment them.
This happens. There's some very powerful spyware for smartphones that would allow it and that type of software can see everything.
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>>2925
report the person you think is doing this to you to the police for having child porn on their computer and they’ll find the stalking stuff too.
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>>2928
It's not me, it's my friend who was stalked.
He's too powerful to report. I don't even know where he is right now. Also he owns tons of property so which one would I report? 
You do understand reporting a powerful man doesn't lean in the woman's favor right? 
He's abused tons of other women this way too. She is not the only victim. The cops haven't done anything about him and he's physically assaulted women as well. 
The cops are useless. They hate women.
Not reporting jackshit.
It's pointless. 
I just wanted to say it does happen. But it's unlikely you could even get a restraining order even if you reported him to the police. A restraining order doesn't stop him from hacking girls cellphones. The girl who tried to press charges or get an RO against Chris D'Elia couldn't get an RO from a judge. This guy is more powerful than D'Elia.
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>>2980
Do you have proof?
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>>2986
Not enough
Not legally and not by law standards no
Don't you think if we had enough we would've tried? She wanted to but I told her they won't believe her. Also what police department? We don't know what his actual residence state is where we'd be able to report him, like where he files his taxes, because again, he owns several properties. It was implied he was up north maybe but don't have a location exactly.
Even if it was enough proof I wouldn't be posting the proof to IBs or to the internet itself because it'll just get erased. Talking about it here is risky enough. I don't really feel safe talking about is beyond this post.
That is what he does.
He erases. If he doesn't erase he finds some other way to bury it or threatens people who talk about his true nature
He buried past times women have accused him or been on the verge of exposure so I think that makes his victims even more scared to come out. Some of these women may not even be legal. Guy tends to target young fans. Usually of a very specific type. These girls are almost always already victims of abuse; bad homes, poor esteem, abuse by other men etc in their background and his aim is to steal what little joy they have until there's nothing left. He has several STDs and he is ready and willing to spread them. I do hope one day a girl is able to squander his reputation and ruin it for good, because hearing about this shit firsthand makes me sick.
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>>2987
if you are in the united states you report where the crime happened to you. so in the town the victim lives. i was told when talking to a different police department that i had to report my rape in the town it happene d
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>>2988
You do understand the magnitude and difference of reporting a public figure vs reporting a normie man for harassment, right? The public figure will almost always win out in the end. The normie may not, but between the both of them you have far less luck reporting the public figure. Either way a man is likelier to not be convicted or the case even explored at all. The police tend to be quite nonchalant and forgetful when it comes to stalking cases. They aren't even good with finding or convicting rapists. This man is a stalker and has possibly raped other women, but it doesn't matter because he's done it all over the world and country and repeatedly gotten away with it. 

Like what are you not getting about this? I know you're trying to be helpful but it just rings as tone deaf that I literally told you, this is not a normal average everyday scrote here- this is a public figure and he has money and power to make any victim of his look crazy. No matter how much proof the victim has- he has money, power, PR and media manipulation to make her look crazy. 

He even bragged that he got away with abusing an animal and although he was shockingly fined for it- no media outlets ever reported upon it. he paid them off not to.

Unless an entire gaggle of women band together to convince a media outlet to listen about the abuse they've experienced like the Weinstein or the Cosby case it's doubtful he's gonna be held accountable.
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>>2986
>>2988
Ngl whenever you see someone talking about gangstalking, just ignore. It's always some weird LARP and no offense to the anon that you're replying to or anything, but it's just there's no conversation that will come out of this that's productive or interesting.
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>>2991
The gang talking thread on CC is at least entertaining. 
 posting an archived version because you never know when csam is going to be on CC. 

https://archive.ph/iv5YS
>>2991
I fucking wish I was larping...
and I love being disbelieved
one day this'll become more normalized and extend more to normie moids and yall will see what havoc digital abuse can wreak but until then enjoy oblivion
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>>2990
>>2996
tbh the way you're talking about it sounds more like you should be contacting Megan Twohey rather than the police. Maybe another investigate journalist with an established track record of protecting sources; send them a message on an encrypted service.
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>>2990
ma’am this isn’t an assault. this is someone you are claiming would have a computer full of your data proving he is guilty. it’s an entirely different type of crime handled entirely differently. if you have this proof that’s made you suspicious in the first place and it was real; they would investigate. him being a public figure is the only way anyone would care and there would even be consequences. it’s not the olden days where they can just silence you - you would just go public like???
>>2999
like literally hire a PI lol this just isn’t real. like who would just let this happen to them and be like noo don’t report him or tell anyone at all…
it’s one of the most politically significant periods of times for americans. i wonder why there’s alt right baiting and then people saying ban talk of american politics on an american heavy ib. especially on a board for women as many lose abortion rights and now banning divorce is on the table. hmmm it is mystery
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I'm sad that Alex Jones was replaced by a clone.
>>3127
It's actually because amerifag politics is tiresome and boring and you are hecking reportederino for derailing the hallowed halls of the /x/ thread.
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>>3129
oh no a realistic tinfoil about bad actors in the sacred “my friend is totally gang stalked by a celebrity” thread.
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>>3127
Have you ever noticed the abortionbait ALWAYS has the same talking points too “just don’t have sex” (even if the nona doesn’t have sex with moids) “why do you care?” (why do YOU care?) . then they start calling the detractors whores and motherphobes or whatever. Obviously i don’t engage in that bullshit bait but it’s weird how it’s always the same talking points, not even the ones you usually hear in real life. I wonder if it’s kiwifags or some tradfag discordians. I don’t even mind the Trump hate if it’s in the containment thread because people are bound to hate that man and he’s undeniably pretty cowish (see: he’d only eat mcdonald’s because he thought it was the only “clean” food for a bit kek). But the /pol/faggotry is irritating because it’s ALWAYS in bad faith. They’re very aggressive and will go over the same topics that were overdone since like 2023, like them being annoyed by accents or whatever. it’s really annoying. Atleast most of the Kamalafags fucked off to /g/ after November. But now you have these aggressive retards calling everyone bots because they don’t believe in pizzagate (/pol/ conspiracy that they were trolled into believing in). It’s so annoying
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>>3145
Nta but I think she was joking about the report, but I also agree with her. Talking about politics on IBs is pointless and derivative. The few boards that are dedicated to politics are shit-shows, right and left. The reason that some people want the Amerifags thread banned isn't because there's some conspiracy against you, it's because you act annoying. It's the same reason why the Britbong thread is annoying whenever they get onto the topic of immigrants. LCF really isn't the place to discuss politics, really and truly: no anonymous forum is the place for that. It devolves into echo chambers where bait and infighting is the norm. You're never gonna have a productive discussion about politics on any IB, so why bother discussing it to begin with?

>>3146
>because it’s ALWAYS in bad faith
It goes both ways. The abortionfags you mention are only doing it because they know it gets a rise out of people, and they keep doing it because anons refuse to learn to report and ignore. On the flip side, if someone actually tries to have a conversation about politics on LC, they'll get called Russian bots by anons as a way to instigate an infight, like in picrel. It's a lose-lose.
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>>3147
because american women are about to be the biggest victims of rising facism. if we ignore and delete the alt right baiting it would be fine. it’s people who want to like immigration sperg who aren’t even fucking american derailing half the time over what we can’t post here if we are conservative? like it’s clearly in bad faith just like the abortion stuff is and it’s silencing american women.
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>>3147
Oh yeah the people accusing everyone of being a russian bot are retarded. However I think lolcow is kind of unique because it’s anti tranny and female only, even ovarit is getting shut down and wasn’t at all accessible like lolcow. Women are going to wanna discuss politics with other women without moids trying to influence everything 24/7. Makes me wish /2X/ wasn’t such a shithole now, could’ve been a perfect place to discuss things like abortion
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>>3146
yeah i literally don’t even participate because whenever a new executive order begins to be discussed it’s magically time to talk about abortions. i’ve given up even talking to people irl about it other than “married women with ectopic pregnancies” because no one cares about life saving intervention outside of nut jobs and that’s the basis for keeping abortion rights in place that isn’t going to devolve into “you shouldn’t have fucked ever whore you deserve to be forced to carry a child as a punishment”. like okay crazy. it’s all bad actors and it’s insane.
>>3148
Not trying to be mean, but responses like this are why people want the Amerifags thread banned. The thread won't be banned because it'd be too unpopular, but a ban on political discussion might be coming in the near future.

>>3149
The issue it that you might not be talking to other American women. For all you know, everyone in that thread is from Europe, or everyone in that thread is a man. There's no way of knowing who you're talking to on an anonymous IB. That's why it's not productive for you to discuss politics that impact us on anonymous IBs. It's better if you do it in real life with women that share your values and concerns, or if you want to do it online then do it on a website that's semi-anonymous like Spinster.
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>>3151
i don’t understand what the first part means especially because i am not a part of the conversations - i left in feb other than to lurk occasionally. and you’re right about it being mostly europeans who are annoying in that thread. i haven’t been keeping up that much but a few months ago that whole thread was europeans posting about immigration in their own countries like i don’t care go be racist in the brit bong thread it’s about to be the hand maids tale here??
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>>3152
>don’t understand what the first part means 
The first part means that anons from one of the wealthiest and most developed countries on Earth aren't victims of "rising fascism" nor will they be living in "the Handmaid's Tale." There are countries that will beat your head in if you don't wear a veil, or stone you to death if you cheat on your husband, or where women have to choose between motherhood or career: the USA is not one of those countries. These types of hyperbolic statements aren't grounded in reality. They belong on social media platforms, where ragebait festers.
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>>3155
those countries aren’t fascist though are they, they have different issues? is america not the most fascist country?

SCOUNDREL WAS KEELHAULED FOR THIS POST bait

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>>3195
bait
>>3155
I was going to congratulate you on being able to reply to her original post in a very clear and open way that gets your point across without sounding confrontational or condescending. But it turns about it was just bait the whole time.
Jars are tightened slightly more than the average woman's grip strength in order to maintain the patriarchy. Just think about how the only example a male can muster for why you would need to marry one is for the ability to open jars.
>>3358
This coupled with the psyop encouraging women not to get strong.
>>3358
skill issue + can't relate. opening sealed jars is a matter of technique, not strength.
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>>3361
This and you can buy one of these bad boys
>>3358
you’ve just gotta slam the lid against the counter to pop the seal
>>3358
Nah, otherwise men wouldn't have to break the jars with their hands and cut themselves up if they start raging. If the jar lids were slightly less tighter that'd expose the food inside to bacteria (that's why you don't buy jars where the air seal button has already popped). Fork or a butter knife inserted into the edge of the lid works for me, someone with the grip strength of a granny.
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Gabe is our lord and savior, the aliens were working for him all along, may everyone bow in his presence.
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I know "birds aren't real" is pretty tired, but now I'm wondering if they started that meme to make it tired so they could actually put out drone birds.
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Every instance of paranormal activity my sister shares about our childhood home was just me. It was just me the whole time.
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>>3612
"Robot" birds have been a thing for over 2 centuries, it would surprise me if they have never tried something like that before. It's quite easy to fake a bird due to their movements seeming robot-like to us.
what do we think about underground cannibalism networks catering to the super wealthy girls
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>>4067
the WHAT
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>>4068
i just saw a really stupid schizo tik tok where people were convinced that fast food places were serving human meat… because there aren’t as many cows as people and missing people are free.. not even joking. but i’ve seen like two or three horror movies lately about underground cannibalism networks where chefs will supply human meat to the ultra wealthy and i thought it was interesting there are so many movies about it lately
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>>4071
They understand that cows are like 1500lbs right...
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>>4080
they were deadass like “”a cow could feed a family of four for like a week. i work in a butcher shop and the butcher told me “there’s only so many cows” ominously.”” people were flabbergasted they couldn’t understand how much meat was on a cow. there’s basically an every 8 people one cow ratio on earth. that are also constantly giving birth. not everyone eats cows. i haven’t eaten red meat in twenty years. like the amount of animal on that animal that’s also giving you milk butter cheese cream etc… i think these prepper freaks are fantasizing about long term freezing and preserving a whole cow or something and are scared that “everyone is going to come buy their cow and there won’t be any for me like taking money out of the banks!” people whose biggest apocalyptic fear is no steak.
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>>4081
americans don’t produce the amount of beef we consume because we literally have it shipped in. it’s literally that simple. most of india doesn’t eat beef at all. they are scaring themselves looking at two vaguely accurate years outdated sets of numbers and not thinking about it any further.
>>4081
Well there’s dairy cows and beef cattle so it’s not the same population providing all the same stuff. I work with dairy cows! Holsteins are absolutely huge, like it’s scary to be next to one sometimes, because they are just humungous animals. They make most of the drinking milk in the US and iirc, lots of what we export. We make the most milk with the fewest cows, because they’re just that efficient and with artificial insemination we’re getting better and better at making milk monsters. Jersies are smaller, they’re like up to my shoulder, but still freaking huge. They make the milk that’s high in buttercream for stuff like cheeses, butter, ice cream, etc. These aren’t usually made into food until their production dips. 

For beef cattle (which I know way less about), feed lot cattle take like 18 months to reach slaughter weight. Grass fed is like 3 years. All of this is in rotation, so every year they have a batch ready to go to slaughter and another batch of new calves to take their place. A whole cow could feed a family of 4 for like 2 years if they take the whole instead of just prime cuts. That’s what some of the prepper people do out here, or go halfsies on a cow. One I know is always begging me to take some ground beef off her hands because they just have so much of it. There’s just no way people are using human meat to shore up beef production.
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>>4083
it’s such a funny concept like in what universe is hunting down and trapping and disappearing a human being less expensive? some people tried to say it was TO SAVE MONEY COS BEEF IS EXPENSIVE. at least the movies where it’s rich people who want to eat human acknowledge how difficult and secretive it is.
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>>4084
I've heard of people using cats and rats, but they don't have families looking for them and usually don't fight back. Did people think Sweeney Todd was a documentary?
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>>4086
soylent green ass theory
how would they decide who gets rounded up into wellness farms
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>>4122
Lack of presence on social media.
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>>4123
oh interesting. how would they find us?
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>>4080
I feel like they're also massively overestimating how much usable meat is on a human body because it's really not a lot. If they said beef was being plumped up with horse meat that'd be more believable because it's happened before but even so I can't imagine that being done to anything but cheaper meat as was done.
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>>4133
Nonnie the way you’ve written this makes it sound like you’ve thought a lot about eating human meat…
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>>4138
Maybe... but anyways the average human's skeletal muscle is worth about 23, 258 calories which is way less than a deer's and most live stock. Not really worth it.
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i want to hear from the nona who thinks brian laundrie is alive can you please come to the front i saw you were silenced and i want to know your theories
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>>4139
Ruminants are tastier anyway.
>>4140
Oh I had to google that. He’s the moid who killed Gabby Peitito. I’m seeing some claims he’s in Cuba.
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>>4141
i’ve seen people claim his parents hid him but didn’t take it seriously. i am interested though because one of our respectable tinfoil nonas thinks he’s alive.
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I'm still trying to figure out why the American government is now becoming so vehement on trying to increase numbers on what they clearly understand will only bolster the poorest parts of American society. I'm sure the government is smart enough to understand that it will literally just be increased wages that will increase the population among the middle class and a decreased population among the undesirables (poorfags) of society. But this specific decision for such a short-term financial benefit is clearly appealing to the poor and vulnerable and no other demographic. 
>Bolstering the lowest caste within American society in order to prepare for war? 
The only reason why I don't think this could be feasible is because it seems like future wars among first-world countries will mainly take place in media with propaganda influence. Like psychological proxy wars that influence the people to have lower morale, less trust in the government, or to invoke more common mutiny while accepting more and more foreign influences.
>Bolstering the lowest caste within American society for more exploitable workers
More people means more of a justification to divide the already small pile of wealth given to the workers, and since over saturation within industries creates more accessible product while justifying paying less, I can see this as plausible. 
>A new generation of mental slaves over the government
Another idea I have is that since the government acknowledges the misanthropy among the previous generations and the absolute cuckoldery that is gen z prior, there is a good benefit of the government promoting millenial women and older gen z women to recreate a large generation pool in order to simply "restart" and subtly changing the curriculum and media to start anew with a more active cuckold information. A generation of young and energetic children willing to defend America while also being milked dry of their resources. However this will probably be a complete failure.
Most of my theories and ideas has a good chance of being all three, combined but who knows. I'm just rambling.
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>cuckoldery
>cuckold
at this point i dont even try to guess what these words are supposed to mean
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>>4158
they don’t mean anything it’s just a freudian slip by that user clearly
>>4158
You never thought about, like, looking it up in a dictionary or something?

>>4143
I'm not sure how it is in America, but in my country the accepted logic is:
>Baby boomers were so plentiful that they enabled vast social welfare programs to exist through the taxes derived from their labour
>The government at the time thought that the population would continuously increase, thus they'd be able to fund more and more social welfare programs
>Since the birth rate has declined, these social welfare programs aren't able to function optimally because there is less tax revenue being collected
>Since these social welfare programs are so important to the overall health of the society, the government needs more taxable working adults in the country ASAP
>The government invites as many immigrants as possible into the country, so that their labour can be taxed to fund social welfare programs

So for example, in my country, Gen2 pays for Gen1's pension program once Gen1 retires, and then Gen3 would pay for Gen2's pension program once Gen2 retires. But, since there are so few Gen3 compared to the large amount of Gen2, the taxes that Gen3 pays won't be enough to cover the pension programs for Gen2. To make up for this, the government had to choose between:
>A) Get rid of the pension program entirely.
>B) Tax corporations and rich people (hahahahaha as if)
>C) Increase taxes to an unsustainable level for those that are working, to the point of causing social disruption akin to what would be caused by Option A
>D) Import millions of unskilled economic immigrants to farm them for tax dollars
And the government chose D because getting rid of the retirement pension plan, and other social programs, would be political and economic suicide.

I assume it's a similar story for America. You'd just have to look into what the taxes fund, whom is paying the taxes, and how many people are paying the taxes.
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>>4162
This is pretty accurate imo for burgerland too.
Perpetual growth is completely unrealistic for both economy and populations. It’s just not possible for continual growth to happen. I think all the birthrate sperging is from boomers who know they’re fucking doomed due to their terrible life choices and actively making the world a worse place for their children, grandchildren. So many people are struggling to find jobs, we clearly have too many people. Why would we worry about the population evening out or even declining?
>>4158
AYRT, I used the words because it means in this context "watching things get fucked" like how gen z is too downtrodden by the government so they're just idly watching it all burn. Having a generation more susceptible in watching their country take over their lives as they have no choice but to become slaves for it's system is generally the vibes I use with those words. I've also seen other anons use it before in LC, but I'd have to lurk a fair amount to find the posts that influenced my vocabulary.
I'm actually responding to >>4220 kek but the "birth rate is plummeting" meme is everywhere. I was looking at getting Inzoi, and in the freaking steam reviews there's people talking about South Korea's birth rate dropping. It's crazy that it's everywhere, and yet I still don't see a problem with it. Isn't it good? I'm in agriculture >>4083 and we are always hearing that the population is gonna double by 2050 and how awful that will be for our sector and keeping yields high etc. So... isn't this good? Good, let's keep a stable population, why not? And yet everyone pearl clutches about it.
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Saw this and thought of our human meat conversation earlier.
I also don't get the new hysteria on low birthrates. I remember growing up and seeing the media always complaining about high population, and how they are doing a 180? Why? Do they just like controlling how people reproduce or what?
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>>4283
Governments don't like the implications of having fewer taxpayers. The line must go up.
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um. what’s this
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