/cuckquean/ - Women sharing their men.

>>2371 (OP) 
Guess I should have asked a question. What would be a good way to go about asking if she's actually somewhat into that without necessarily asking? 
>asking flat out if she'd wants me to have sex with someone else seems like a generally bad idea
>especially if Im wrong

Part of the reason I've decided to pursue part of this is because there may be a similar issue as what happened during the last pregnancy, though this time it would mean some seven months of no sex. Which means the offer may reappear again, but Id like to get things figured out before then. She didnt handle the last time very well.

>>2371 (OP) 
>Maybe a vixen?
You might be confused. A vixen is the "other woman" who the man has sex with.

>>2372
>She didnt handle the last time very well.
Explain, please.

>>2373
Im still trying to figure out some of the terminology, my bad. 

>last time
Got hospitalized for preterm labor (multiple times), eventually an observant nurse bothered to ask a million dollar question. Told that we couldnt have sex else it would keep happening. She apparently took this to mean she wasnt allowed to cum, not that the protein in the sperm was causing her to go into preterm. Orgasms can cause it, but its usually the protein like 90% of the time. 4+ months of no sex and she was... Different about things during and even after awhile.
>offered that I could have a girlfriend
>routinely asked for me to masturbate for her
>would bring up and talk more depth about sex, in particular what I want or look for in women
Which was odd, since I obviously wouldnt be looking
>demanded to know a few times if I ever considered anyone other than her
>told me to buy condoms but then adamantly refused that we should use them
Personally at the time I chalked it up to her just being pent up and full of hormones; thats highly atypical behavior for her, shes usually very reserved and getting her to talk about anything sexual is often awkward or rather straightforward but with oddly family friendly phrasing. Were finally on a decade of marriage and she's only recently okay with dirty talking.

>>2371 (OP) 
>>2372
>>2374
Let's make sure we're talking about the same thing. Cuckqueaning is a sexual fetish/kink; I encourage my man to sleep around because I like it when he does. Two main types of cuckqueans exist: Compersive (mainly get off on their man getting off; don't experience it as humiliating) and humiliation-driven (mainly get off on the humiliation of their man getting off elsewhere; actively seek to be degraded by the experience). But take note: Just because a woman might allow her man to fuck another girl doesn't mean she's a cuckquean. For example, a woman involved in a threesome together with her man and a third girl might not particularly get off on her man fucking that third girl, and e.g. instead might enjoy experimenting with the bisexual aspect of it, regarding her man's sexual contact with the other girl as merely an interesting side-show she can take or leave. Such a woman would not be a cuckquean in the sexual fetish sense.

I think it's safest to assume a woman doesn't have a cuckqueaning fetish until conclusively proven otherwise.

What you've described plus the strong religious streak suggests to me that your wife might feel it to be her duty to ensure you're getting off regularly, and if she can't do so herself she seeks other means of doing so, up to and including suggesting you sleep around. If this is the case, it's not the same thing as wanting you to sleep around for her own sexual gratification.

It's also possible (but much less probable) that she's nursing a secret cuckqueaning fetish and is only able to let herself express it when circumstances "force" it (e.g. she feels guilty about it so needs an excuse). Without being able to actually discuss it with her, there's very little you can do to determine which is which.

I do wonder: You were offered a girlfriend, but what did your wife expect to happen once she'd given birth and was able to fulfil her marital duties again? You keep the girlfriend, or does the poor girl get kicked to the curb?

>>2375
Ill read more about it then. Id think overall if it does apply itd likely be compersive then, simply based on things that I know for certain.

Ive considered both of those, which is part of why I wanted advice. Its not so much that I cant, just being overt about it might not go over well. Like... Is there a subtle way to find out or should I just go about trying to kickstart such a conversation? 

If it helps the more serious conversations about polygyny are part of what led me to making my assumption overall. 

To be entirely honest I have no idea, and hadnt considered that at all. I had completely dismissed everything, but if I hadnt that wouldnt have been a good situation at all; especially if she didnt have the fetish.

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>>2376
>Like... Is there a subtle way to find out or should I just go about trying to kickstart such a conversation?
There are subtle ways to lead her into such a conversation, but they rely on context and skills that I suspect you might not have. One way might have been to say something like
>Remember that thing about me having a girlfriend? I stumbled on an imageboard full of girls who like their men to have side girls, pretty weird huh?
But since you've posted here, that's a non-starter.

I'd counsel against introducing her to the "cuckquean" term early, if you were thinking about that, since the humiliation-driven stuff (much of it quite ugly) dominates search results and your wife might end up understanding the term to mean exclusively that. This is because humiliation-driven cuckqueans experience telling people about their humiliation as being even more humiliating, so naturally they do it more.

>the more serious conversations about polygyny are part of what led me to making my assumption overall
You keep referring to these but give us no information. What are we supposed to do with it?

When it comes right down to it, it sounds like you're afraid of your wife's response no matter whether you approach it openly or covertly. That's not a great position to be in and will lead to misunderstandings at best and pain at worst.

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>You were offered a girlfriend, but what did your wife expect to happen once she'd given birth and was able to fulfill her marital duties again? You keep the girlfriend, or does the poor girl get kicked to the curb?

The answer to this seems pretty important to me. If it's to kick her to the curb and she really means that then it's just desperation.

I really just can't overstate the importance of being honest with each other, but right now she sounds like she needs that advice more than you. If you can't tell whether her answer to that question is honest, we sure can't.

Does she have the idea in her head that it's a failure of hers if her husband has to masturbate for a few months? It's possible you put that idea in her head by complaining about the inadequacy of masturbation as a substitute for the wife's touch. It's possible that you didn't, but she got the idea from somewhere else. Something to clear up with her, I feel.

>I was given permission to get a girlfriend so long as she knew about it. I didn't do this as like the other prior times such had come up

What's odd to me is that she keeps bringing it up. If you know the option is on the table, and she knows you know, why continue to mention it? What does she think will happen if you don't avail yourself of the option? Has she become insecure, and worried you will leave her? So that's another angle to start asking from, maybe better than the first approach I mentioned.

>>2377
Its not an issue of her response, its whether or not it was handled tactfully. Id rather not ruin what I already have, Im perfectly happy with what I have I just want to make sure that she is as well or at least willing to discuss such with me. Im happily married, Id rather not blow that up because Im an idiot; perfectly reasonable thing to be worried about.

Im starting to think that maybe thumbing through a thesaurus and approaching things about compersion and her obsession with watching me get off might be a good avenue.

>Polygyny 
Right. Comes up every now and then. This ranges from light jokes to full on serious discussions. Basically everything most to do with it in whatever aspect whenever it tends to come up. From teasing
>"Haha, well you arent allowed to just pick out a new dishwasher with benefits, I get a say."
To more thought out serious discussions
>"I think the best way to set up a house like that would be have everyone under one rough, that way things are consistent and clear. Having a man hop from house to house isnt fair to the kids or his wives."
Its like a weird subject that we keep coming back to, like truecrime nuts constantly wanting to discuss cannibalism; we just end up talking about it fairly often in almost every context and besides discussing ways that it could be done wrong, theres never really a negative connotation. one of our more indepth conversations basically going over how everything would need to be done or structured overall; such as how the kids would need to be brought up, sleeping arrangements, employment, and even how date nights would theoretically work. More recently I was told in a fairly serious manner when the subject came up again
>"Well if we do that, I get to choose who they'll be. Okay?"
This is a definite part that leads me here but also leaves me to wonder if this is nebulous random discussion or not. We often discuss various odd stuff at length, but not so much or as often as setting up a household where Id have at least two wives or more.

>>2382
Dunno, never bothered for her to clarify. Guess I could ask her this time around as it'll likely come up again.
>failure of hers
No, at least not that Im aware of or by any indication shes given. She tends to view that as something kink based more than anything, like a reward that I should give her every now and then. She seems to get off on watching me, or just knowing that Im doing so. We werent properly able to for 4months, but that doesnt mean that she couldnt do certain things, but there was a definite preference for watching me or at least knowing. That with the girlfriend thing or the long discussions on polygyny it isnt such a leap.

>prior times
Theyre few and far between, the last time was nearly three years ago during the 4 month stint. The offer is usually infrequent and seems to follow with us either not being able to have sex for whatever reason, stressed, or when she's drunk. 
>insecure
I hope not, Ill have to talk to her about that, moreso about if she believes Id leave. That's more important.

Input so far has been good, thanks for the responses.

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>>2384
>"I think the best way to set up a house like that would be have everyone under one rough, that way things are consistent and clear. Having a man hop from house to house isnt fair to the kids or his wives."
I agree with your wife, FWIW.

>"Well if we do that, I get to choose who they'll be. Okay?"
>She seems to get off on watching me, or just knowing that Im doing so
>there was a definite preference for watching me or at least knowing
Now we're getting somewhere. These are indeed things that point towards your wife having components of the cuckquean fetish; the voyeuristic interest in your pleasure is a big one.

Next time the polygyny discussions come up, steer towards bedroom arrangements and explore what her attitude towards sex would be. One big bed? Threesomes can't happen all the time, so would she want to watch? Egg on and encourage you and her co-wife? (A long while ago, we had input from one woman in a polygynous marriage who said the point where she really gelled to the arrangement sexually was when the first wife held her hand and egged her on while she was getting fucked.)

Other things you want to discover in the polygyny discussions:
>Does she think of polygyny only as a "backup" for when she's out of commission, or as something she'd be happy with in general?
>How does she think she'd get along with a co-wife?
>You'd be having sex with another woman under her nose. What does she think about that?
>One big bedroom or separate bedrooms for each wife? Pros/cons?
>How would dating to find a co-wife work? She has to be involved in the selection process, after all...
>What's the best number of wives?
>Does the first wife in a polygynous marriage ever get "buyer's remorse"?

And so on. Move from polygyny in general to specific hypotheticals involving her, keeping the tone light-hearted. Be sure to tell her you think it's cool that she's so relaxed and open about a topic that sends some women into angry rages. Pay attention to where she goes with the discussion and let her feel encouraged to express herself. Many women with this fetish find that people just straight up do not understand, so it's important to show that you're capable of understanding the dynamic from her perspective and that you think it's cool that she thinks about it like she does.

Another thing you can do is to explore the sexual dynamic wherein she feels good when you feel good. You say that the thing where she asks to watch you masturbate is
>usually infrequent and seems to follow with us either not being able to have sex for whatever reason, stressed, or when she's drunk
but have you suggested doing it yourself? Ever done it as foreplay to normal sex? Given yourself a couple of cheeky tugs on your morning wood with a big grin before you get up? You only learn the parameters of something by exploring it.

Went with a light push on the voyeurism and posing hypotheticals as well as claiming that I had a dream where I had a harem of multiple wives of only her. Pretty significant results and some mildly amusing stuff. At this point Im definitely certain she is rather into cuckquean but likely not entirely comfortable with it or the certain aspects as well as worried that I'd somehow be stolen away/be tempted to leave.

So, to start with I decided to go over the 'dream'. Which was interesting. She seemed to have a mixed reaction but turned on by it which lead to an interesting conversation. 
>she suggested that we do roleplay 
>floated the idea that she could be a hooker or just some girl I picked up at a bar
>I offered back that thats too sleazy, offering instead a girlfriend or co-wife scenario
>she didnt like the girlfriend suggestion and at first refused to address why co-wife wasnt good
>eventually settled on "its too realistic" while her face was red
>asked for an explanation and all I got was weak deflections
>"Youre too handsome, someone might try to steal you."
Im honestly rather average and absolutely nothing special, 
>"besides, most women out there are nuts."
>"where would we all sleep? Itd be awkward."
When I offered, jokingly, that I could change my office into a bedroom she kind of sputtered and told me I was mean and went back into other deflections 
>"well, Im greedy. Id want you more often."
Pointed out that that wasnt a no
>"well you arent allowed to date, most women are nuts and thats a weird situation."
Follow back with a teasing tone that she said she'd pick co-wife, since I apparently wasnt allowed to. Went beet red and then became sexually aggressive

Decided at some point to keep prodding about why she said it was too realistic, as if I could just pop out and come home with a second wife. Obviously even getting to a point to even attempt such a situation would probably be a ton of work and lots of screening; even more so since I have children, my state has squatter laws, and more. So this was definitely odd to me and at least seems that indicate that its at least a very real thing to her that I could just have a second wife. 
>she wouldnt explain the why she said it was too realistic and still refuses to, instead deflecting still or just outright changing the subject
No anger, just kind of a general embarrassment and more indications that this is something she seems to have thought about thoroughly

From there I decided to push on some of the voyeur/compersion stuff. Continued with the harem dream thing and worked it in as dirty talk about having to watch me use a different her however I wanted. Ill spare the unnecessary details, but did pick up rather big stuff
>she's absolutely into the idea of watching me 
>she's up for watching me have sex, suggesting taping it
>floated that she didnt think itd be as good to watch me having sex with her, phrased in such a way to suggest that she wanted to watch me rail a girl that she considers prettier than herself 
Something like
>"Im not that pretty, so it wouldn't be as fun for me to watch."
Didnt push on this, but will at a later time. And yes, I did make sure to reassure her about how she looks. 

Gonna try and get that why. 

>>2386
>polygyny discussions
Definitely going to see, some of the stuff we talked about the other day hit on these but not fully. Another aspect that might be part of the unwillingness to discuss is general views on bisexuality versus wants, dunno.

>other things
>backup
It seems more like the offered excuse would be "backup" but that she's into it, Ill have to find a way to bring this up at some point. Have mentioned that housechores and such would be easier with another wife.
>"no, youd just end up with two of us being pregnant and grumbling at you."
Told her I wouldnt mind that, which prompted a subject change as her face went red

Some of those are pretty tough, Ill likely marry them with what I parsed out and see what she says
>likely multiple bedrooms as she's indicated

>compersion dynamic
Basically was told its now part of my husbandly responsibilities to let her watch me masturbate and that I have to really let her know that I enjoy it lmao

>>2391
Ill see you guys in a week or so, going to see what she'll be willing to open up on. Thanks for all the replies so far

Bit more than a week, sorry. But I do have updates and seem to be making reasonable progress. Otherwise Im honestly having a ton of fun as Ive been pushing all sorts of buttons lately. 

>polygyny discussion
Came up a few times, usually at her prompting and often resulted in her playfully getting "upset" with me or turning red and suddenly deflecting. Discussions are usually less than 30 mins, but this is a step up from occasionally touching on the subject tangentially and saying oddly cq themed things and parachuting out of it or only maintaining a less than 5 mins convo

Telling stuff though
>"well at least we know that any kids you'd have would be just as cute as ours,"
>"its not like a second wife would change the outcome, you'll practically only shooting Xs. Do you really want to have twice as many daughters?"
Said a didnt mind 
>"Well that many kids would drive you nuts, besides you really think you could handle more than one woman?"
Suggested that I could and that its not as if there arent two spots to sit on. She then demanded that I prove it
>"w-well, its not like youd get to go dating or anything, I wont allow it."
Rebutted with "because you said you'd get to choose who." She simply turned red became physically demanding. 

Noticed a bit of correlation that any discussion of either watching me or being involved with some other woman tends to result in her wanting to jump my bones. Dunno if this is because its turning her on or if she's turned on by the idea of having to restake her claim to me.

>"Besides, itd be dangerous if you had more than one wife. We'd be constantly pregnant."
On discussing in a similar vein as before but also that I like seeing her pregnant 

>"even if we could find someone its illegal un- well...yeah."
Suggested that its only an issue if we tried to process it through the govt, a purely religious situation where we dont engage in common law wouldnt be an issue at all. 
>"I guess so, besides I get to choose."
>"And its not like we could just pop out and pick up a second wife for you. Haha, I-I mean... How would we even do that? Haha, its not there are places where we could go and find someone and say 'h-hey, come by and fuck my husband.'."
This was after discussing her voyeuristic interests and I ended up biting myself to stop from saying anything. She was beet red and nervously laughing about it while sounding kind of disappointed. We had been discussing filming me having sex and she kept giving input as if Id not being having sex with her IF we ever filmed stuff. Then finished off with that statement. The cursing in the statement was also a bit of shock, she practically never does at all. 
>"and regardless, you cant have any one night stands. I wont allow it. So trying to find another wife seems really hard."

I know some of you likely will call me stupid for not chasing that, but Im not really looking to change my situation outside of getting her to be more open about her kinks. If it happens, it happens; but honestly its kind of a pandoras box situation. I dont want to ruin what Ive got or hurt her, things are great and I love her.

>"anyways its not like Id choose just anybody. Its a rather short list of people I trust because Id need to know that we'd mesh well." 
In regards to "who" she'd be willing to choose. Again, didnt pursue but will at a later time in regards to the voyeurism. I kind of think this is more of a mental list of single friends that she trusts that she's fantasized about me having sex with or comfortable with the idea of me having sex with. Dont have female friends so its not like I could ask if thats a normal female behavior to tend to fantasize/think about and online hasnt been fully helpful in that area. 

She has however mentioned that Im the only one she thinks about sexually at all, and outside of childish crushes from decades ago from before she met me, Im the only one she thinks about.

>>2448
Continuing, post is too big
>>2386
>polygyny discussion next time
Seems to be a general mix of threesomes or watching, while permanent sleeping arrangements being a indeterminate. Suggests being picking up on that Id lose my office or that we'd need a King sized bed. She seems less sure about this than other things, responses vary

>Does she think of polygyny only as a "backup" for when she's out of commission, or as something she'd be happy with in general?
It seems like "backup" is a bit of an excuse to hide from that she's at least interested in the idea and unsure how Id react. Overall it seems like something she'd love but doesnt want to admit
>How does she think she'd get along with a co-wife?
See above. Basically she'd want to vet them and be friends with them first, so theres definitely be a bit more thinking on this than even I realized.
>You'd be having sex with another woman under her nose. What does she think about that?
Outside of the "I want to watch you have sex" vague conversations, not necessarily sure. She seems to get off on the idea of watching me, but whether thats her or someone else she hasnt been specific on. Does seem to be excited at the prospect of me engaging in fetishistic stuff, again phrased in a way that seems to imply a girl who isnt her; anal only apparently being a favorite that drives her insane.
>One big bedroom or separate bedrooms for each wife? Pros/cons?
Mix, see above
>How would dating to find a co-wife work? She has to be involved in the selection process, after all...
She hasnt elaborated but has obviously thought/is thinking about it. 
>What's the best number of wives?
Unable to ask, but Ill probably have the "two seats" quote thrown back at me lol
>Does the first wife in a polygynous marriage ever get "buyer's remorse"?
Openly seems to give off the idea that she'd want someone who she could reasonably be best friends with for the rest of her life, likely as a means of avoiding that

Made sure consistently remind her, per her, that she gets to choose co-wife and that she's my favorite wife. Usually met with a mix of things from vaguely positive to teasing back, to even suddenly becoming sexually aggressive with me. 

>sexual dynamic/compersion
As mention before, its apparently now part of my responsibilities to do so. Either as foreplay, as a general show for her, or if I happen to feel like I want to masturbate. Its definitely part of a voyueristic/compersion thing though. She wants to watch in every manner of the term and is far more excited and into it if its clear that Im into and obviously enjoying it. 
>mechanical wank was somewhat entertaining for her, but not pleasing enough and I got lectured on it
>like I was a pornstar phoning it in lmao
>loud, crazed, animalistic jacking and she goes nuts just watching me

Any questions are welcome as are suggestions, and as before thanks for the input. 

As for questions I have:
>how likely is social dynamics an issue overall for some of you? How did you guys overcome this (assuming co-wife sort of situation)? 
Personally I think the only thing holding her back on it is fear that Id reject her, our religion, neighbors, and that our extended family might flip out 
>for those of you who have, how do you deal with neighbors, relatives, kids, etc? 
>are there any kind of cq themed media that isnt porn to kind of help along a conversation? 
Personally I dont think she'd be up for watching tlc mormon stuff
>for those of you who do have a polygynyist setup, how does that work in terms of jobs, insurance, etc?

>>2449
Sounds to me like your wife's into it, yeah.

>"And its not like we could just pop out and pick up a second wife for you. Haha, I-I mean... How would we even do that? Haha, its not there are places where we could go and find someone and say 'h-hey, come by and fuck my husband.'."
Good work Anon's wife; I had a gud laff.

>how likely is social dynamics an issue overall for some of you? How did you guys overcome this (assuming co-wife sort of situation)?
Don't know, never had a co-wife and am not presently contemplating such an arrangement. But I think a good rule of thumb should be that all wives like each other and are good enough friends that they can live together in the same house.

>for those of you who have, how do you deal with neighbors, relatives, kids, etc?
The usual method with neighbours is to just keep things low-key and only confirm the nature of the relationship if asked directly. Don't hide it (suspicious) but don't go out of your way to point it out either (obnoxious).

Relatives? Who knows! At the very least, all sets of parents should know and be OK with the arrangement. Exceptional care should be taken to assure everyone involved that both women are OK with it and nobody's getting exploited.

For kids, the only reference point I've seen for handling it is that the women do have limited authority over each others' kids but that the kids should call only their actual mother as mother, and the other women as "aunty <name>". Expect them to be very confused and curious as to why other kids don't have households like theirs, and for them to catch some flak at school etc. But overall the main thing is for them, like any other kids, to have their needs met in an age-appropriate way and to be raised with love in a loving household. All else pales in comparison.

>are there any kind of cq themed media that isnt porn to kind of help along a conversation?
There are some harem anime where one of the girls actively wants the guy to take multiple wives, and not just as a compromise. There are also a number of cuckqueany and/or multi-wife situations in normal media, but these are not going to be useful for you because they're rarely portrayed as anything other than a curiosity or plot device. I don't think you should be relying on media to drive your conversations anyway.

>for those of you who do have a polygynyist setup, how does that work in terms of jobs, insurance, etc?
You'll always want to check for anti-bigamy laws in your jurisdiction. As for tax, insurance, and so on, you'd have to consult knowledgeable specialists. I'd expect that tax and insurances wouldn't accept any more than one wife as a dependant, so one wife would have to be the "civilly registered" wife and the other(s) interacting with the system as individuals.

That said, I've also heard of some jurisdictions with common law marriage recognising mistresses as legitimate partners for the purpose of asset disbursement upon break-up of the relationship, so you'd want to consult lawyers etc. about recognising that with cohab agreements or whatever else holds in your jurisdiction.

As for finances, you could do pooled income or split expenses or something else. The important thing is that everyone agrees on and likes the arrangement. Again, I'm not really the authority here, but if you were treating this as marriage you'll want to plan properly for the costs of children from each of the wives.

Shes definitely into it

Ended up having a rather serious conversation finally with a totally different tone than usual. It was actually pretty illuminating.
>almost all of her unwillingess to engage in it beyond a fantasy is due to practicality issues
>what would we tell the kids
>how would our parents react
>we obviously would have issues with going to church 
>hilariously most of what I mentioned here like insurance which actually freaked me out for a moment 
Dunno, are you on here hun? Lmao
>her personal preference for even considering someone would be someone with similar mores and religious views as us, someone she knows and is good friends with, and someone that both of us would consider attractive
>I suspect some of her "attractiveness" requirement is more of a compersion thing or possibly a bisexuality thing
>again that dating would be a mess and isnt ideal nowadays
>that she doesnt know anyone that she has a good relationship to consider for it; and that of who she knows well enough to have considered, they arent available or would be able to for whatever reason
This actually surprised me, I kind of figured she had thought about various things but the way she phrased it made it sound as if she had thought about me railing her friends at length. I kind if figured when I began to think she was into cq, but to hear her more or less say it out loud was rather surprising. Still wont explicitly say such though.
>sleeping all in one bed would okay, having sex all together would likely be a 'mood' thing and she'd more likely want me to bounce between their rooms with me not having one 
>general insecurities; that I might try to run off with second wife (we actually know someone who basically did this, but not cq stuff), that I dont find her attractive, or that second wife would steal me somehow
>weird insecurities; that second wife would be a better cook, that the kids would like second wife more, or that itd turn into a collectathon 

Then there was some of the other stuff that had come up that makes me think shes likely planning something.
>"Oh no, [third cousin with no blood relation], lost her job and will probably have to move. Do you think we could something? Maybe she could move in?"
We live five states away in a worse economy, in a rural area. 
>"what do you think about older women?"
She already knows what I think, its part of why she constantly teases me about being a few months older than me
>"well if the gene therapy stuff does sterilize everyone, do you think you'd be okay with being a breeding stud?"
This came out of no where and I ended up spitting my coffee all over, again something she usually doesnt discuss or even joke about at all


>>2481
Figured Id ask in case anyone popping into the thread had such a setup. Thanks for the input. Kind if figured for most of it, but wanted to know from someone with firsthand experience. 

>if anyone is lurking and does have such a setup, please throw in your two cents

>>2449
Reading this thread, I was thinking "Okay she can't have vaginal sex, but instead of suggesting her other 2 holes, she goes straight to suggesting another woman? Is she against anal?" But
>anal only apparently being a favorite that drives her insane.
I know you realized her cuckquean fetish by now but that was an early telltale sign.

>>2564
>anal only apparently being a favorite that drives her insane.
>I know you realized her cuckquean fetish by now but that was an early telltale sign.
Is that a big cuckquean thing?

Everyone on this board is male.

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>>2565
There's a higher-than-baseline number of anal-only enthusiasts among cuckqueans, but my feeling is that the anal-only is linked more strongly to the submissive underpinnings many cuckqueans also share. I definitely wouldn't treat anal-only as a sure sign of a latent cuckquean fetish, in any case.

>>2564
Technically could but the issue is from orgasming and, if I remember correctly, a protein in cum that would kick off labor. So basically only oral would be an option.
>should have been more clear, my mistake
Anal-Only as in for the implied other girl. Not that she isnt okay with butt stuff herself, but the general conversation about having a co-wife she seemed overly excited about getting to watch such. Not sure why though, will have to try and ask
>a control thing?
>Domsub situation between the two of them on top of the cq elements?
>because its something Im nuts for?
Still slowly making headway

>>2565
Sometimes, but not an absolutely.

I recently found out that my fiancée is a quean after  I was falsely accused from a third party that I was cheating. At the beginning I thought she was baiting me into admitting guilt but right now I am rather convinced she gets off to the prospect of me fucking other girls. How do you think I should handle this?

>>2676
Can you provide more information? Like why you believe she gets off to the idea, etc.

>>2677
Welp the "evidence" for the accusation against me was a deepfake video some anon circulated on my social circle. She used that both as fap and foreplay material.

>>2577
Update
Still only her as far as things go for living arrangements. 

Things are going okay overall as things progress, though
>Teases me more often about there being an other, older woman that I'm hypothetically involved with
No such woman exists, the practical problems involved and established relationship issue being a thing 
>These range from slight ribbing to explicit and a rather large range if situations; from sitting on the couch and folding laundry to sexual situations
>"Is your grey-haired girlfriend at work going to like your new cologne?"
>"Would she beg nicely for your cum? How badly would she need it? Could she even keep up with you?"

This is likely a two part thing of feeling less threatened by a woman who's older and therefore less able to necessarily steal me away with their looks, as well as that I have a slight interest in older women 

>Has declaratively stated that this will likely be the last baby that she'll have while also stating that *I* would be having more children in the future
>Usually these statements aren't too far apart in terms of time and context of a conversation
Not sure if this is brain fog and tiredness or her implying she'd rather have me knock up a second or more wife in the future

Upon discussing possible issues that may be a problem in the future in regards to reckless medical people and the possible need for "clean" sperm
>I'm forbidden from selling my baby batter
>I'll be allowed to give it away, but only if the woman is single and she likes her
>Not allowed to have a harem, but one or two other women living with us that she can be friends with would be great

Think I'll continue to work on slowly finding more neutral or at least not super explicit cq material to go over with her and try and help with fostering her interest in this

>>2724
Sounds to my ears like she already has an interest very well-fostered. I assume you’re teasing her right back when she gets saucy and hypothetical? If not, try it. Jokingly enter into the world she builds. For example, you might point out that she’d have to hear you donate sperm to her new living companions, but you’d be okay with her watching to make sure it got done properly, and you appreciate her helping to screen all the eager applicants. Your work squeeze not only begs nicely for your cum, but refers to it as an elixir of life. Oh, and had you mentioned there were two work squeezes now? And so on. If and when you manage to get her blushy and flustered with this, give her a nice affectionate groping before taking the pressure off. Sounds to me like she’s having fun with it, which is a great way to take this fetish.

Update:
Perfectly healthy, if not small, baby and slowly having to adapt to intermittent sleep schedule. 

>blatant Cq type comments have kind of tapered off
>Wether this is because she can have at me again without fear of preterm labor or because relatives are over currently, idk
Though she does still continue in the odd "I'm done having kids," and "well, your other wife can try for a boy." As well other implicative statements that we'll keep having children in the future, just through a second wife

>Teasing me about older women seems to have doubled
Though with less of a sexual hint to it, likely either because we can have sex now or because relatives are about
>Still plays off as if said theoretical woman is somehow seduced me into being a submissive boytoy though
Going to try and chase that down, if anything it seems like a fantasy that she likely engages in and thinks on pretty often

>Acts oddly around women if they seem to respond or show genuine positive attention to me
Not just older women, basically any woman, and it's definitely not jealousy. One of the last times a waitress was overly touchy and too personal with me resulted in a rather needy wife once we got home. Personally I think shes likely fantasizing about various things due to these interactions

>Mentions various female relatives on occasion as if to imply that's an avenue
Her second cousin by marriage on her side apparently suddenly needs a house after being evicted from their rental, she's 26 and deeply religious. 
>These come up occasionally, usually try to brush it off or ignore it
>Mostly due to the fact that most of these relations are so far out she's never even met them
>Inviting a 26 y/o strange woman into the house who's deeply Into seventh day Adventism who she's never met
>No thanks

Have considered rehashing the argument of 
>If we did this you'd have help around the house, a friend to hangout with, etc etc etc
Though totally unsure of how to proceed if she's more receptive on acting on it, honestly can't offer anything in terms of how meeting people is basically impossible and those that we probably could, we wouldn't want anywhere near our kids

>>2725
Definitely, though not necessarily on that level yet but I'll go for it

>>2884
Will you eventually take the plunge and tease her about imagining you with other girls? Sounds to me like she'd probably enjoy knowing you knew and didn't mind her feeling that way, even if you don't act on it. There's no need to take everything at once and make sure it's all perfect right to the end as long as you don't overstep, you know? Being all squirmy while one's man affectionately teases one about one's dirty thoughts can be lots of fun on its own.

>>2896
Gonna go for it. Got a moderately humorous setup for it and it'll be fun overall. Wish we luck guys

>Went on a teasing about at work old ladies
>She insists jokingly that my being used by them is somehow a general benefit and a good thing
>"Well what would you get out of it?"
>"Well they could pay with full sized chocolate bars,"
>Refuses to elaborate on if she's getting anything else out of it

So I've bought a bunch of full sized bars, let's see how this turns out.

>>2896
>Being all squirmy while one's man affectionately teases one about one's dirty thoughts can be lots of fun on its own.
This. I would assume that for most women cuckquean is a fetish, not a lifestyle. There are definitely women who are turned on by the idea of getting cucked but they do not want to actually get cucked by their partner, in the same way that a good chunk of those people out there who are into incest don't want to fuck their actual families. Ideas are hot, even if they never lead to actions. If it does lead to more someday, then that's great, but if not then you have a fun new way to flirt with her which is also great.

>>2929
Make sure to take a piece as “your cut” and make lots of low sensual moans as you slowly savour it in front of her.

>>2930
>for most women cuckquean is a fetish, not a lifestyle
Very true, and I'm glad you pointed it out. It's completely fine to keep all this in the realm of fantasy, if someone doesn't want to make it happen for real. Pressure ain't sexy unless it's of a different sort, knamean?

How do I get a cuckquean gf? Do I try to get a regular gf and then convince her to do cuckquean stuff or are there any specific search terms on dating apps?

>>2956
Why do you want a cuckquean gf?

>>2957
I don't think I would be happy in a normal relationship. It just never made any sense to me to be just with one girl forever until I die (or we get divorced). 
When I was in school there was a girl who (I think) was into me; she was a petite brunette, a little bit shy (I was shy too at the time so I never asked her out), nerdy type, she played MMORPGs and had acne and was really cute overall. When I was imagining her being my gf I would then try to imagine having sex with her, but my mind would always wander off to thoughts any of the "hotter" blonde, more popular girls in class coming on to me and flirting with me, stealing me away from her (because they could) in front of her. These fantasies would then often evolve into all kinds of more elaborate cuckqueaning scenarios. This was also before I knew cuckqueaning was a thing. 
So whenever I tried to fap to that nerdy girl by itself it didn't do anything for me and whenever I fapped to the hot Stacy / cheerleader types it didn't do anything for me either. It seems I need the combination of both. 
A relationship like that would never become boring because I imagine me and my cuckquean gf would always be on the lookout for hot new girls that I could fuck.

>>2970
Then you’ll be disappointed to hear that a man looking for a cuckquean straight off is a huge red flag and turnoff to most cuckqueans and indeed most women. Many cuckqueans only discover their own tendencies after they’re secure and happy in a monogamous relationship. Still, if you won’t be happy in a relationship with one woman, you should be completely open about this; even though I have the fetish, I know I would feel terribly betrayed (not in any good way) if I shacked up with someone who it turned out was aiming to cuck me all along. Just don’t try to create a cuckquean; that’s a messy recipe for abusive disaster.

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>>2973
So you are saying straight up looking for a cuckquean is a turnoff, and also that I shouldn't tell her that I want to cuck her after I've been with her for a while, but I should still be open about wanting to do cuckquean stuff with her? How do I do that at the same time? 
Are you saying that it will be virtually impossible for me to find a cute cuckquean gf? Aside maybe from the off chance that I find a girl who then somehow stumbles into wanting to do it all on her own accord

I've always wanted a large family. This has given birth heh to an impregnation fetish. Horny brain has done math and has come to the realization that it needs more wombs for its goal and the sanity of my future/fantasy wife, but I also believe that siblings should more related than same dad/random mothers.
This has caused the impregnation fetish to evolve into an impregnation oyakodon fetish.

Now, I'm not asking "how 2 fugg gfs mom?" because I know damn well it's not going to happen. But I'm curious how /cuckquean/ would feel about your husband being with you as well as your mother/sister, or the idea of raising your children alongside your nieces/nephews/siblings who are also their siblings? Does adding your family to the equation better or worse than some vixen?
I swear this isn't some weird incest thing on my end, it's only when the girls are related that makes it hot.

>>2974
Just setting expectations. You can still search in spite of this; I’m saying that searching for a partner on the basis of a single rare fetish is bound to be troublesome no matter what, and that given the choice between being truthful about your intentions or lying about them, you should be honest because lying about this sort of thing is a) wrong, and b) likely to blow up in everyone’s face very messily.

>>2931
Got called a butthead and if I didn't stock she would "punish" me lmao

Not much for update for now, likely won't make any headway for awhile due to her being pent up. I'll keep you guys apprized

Does anyone know where to find INGTLD’s new content? She was a very popular cuckquean/cuckold blogger on tumblr that went to bdsmlr and disappeared. She does have a gif profile on redgifs where you could see she does have recent uploads but no information on where shes posting them?

>>3002
They’re no longer on topic for this board since switching entirely to a focus on interracial + male cuckoldry. Try a cuckold-focused board instead of /cuckquean/.

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>>3002
I don't know about the new content. Maybe it's just as well if it's more cuckold-oriented now - and browsing through the redgifs profile you mentioned, it does seem to be mostly BLACKED crap now. But there's an archive of older stuff here:
https://ingtld-archive.bdsmlr.com/

As far as I know they never said whether they were a guy or a girl, or what race they were for that matter. I am a little confused about what sort of person would seemingly enjoy both BLACKED and COLONIZED porn, and both cuckold and cuckquean porn.

Well the stuff archived or the most viewed posts were the “BLACKED” posts but yes its true they never said they were female. They very well could be a guy, its just the posts that I saw coming out from them they always put more “effort” in cuckquean posts and I thought they could be female~

>>3004
>what sort of person would seemingly enjoy both BLACKED and COLONIZED porn, and both cuckold and cuckquean porn.
Someone with a subversion and general racemixing fetish.

>>3004
>a little confused about what sort of person would seemingly enjoy
Someone who has to repress deep intimate feelings. Someone who has never had or is disconnected from real (meaningful) relationships in their life.

>>3004
>what sort of person would
I think it's a matter of being into the power dynamics of it. Sort of like appreciating maledom and femdom, as long as someone's getting dommed. I can relate to it, to some degree, even if I don't appreciate the same things.

As someone who probably knew them better than most online, I can say that they were definitely more personally to the bleached side of things, being very pro-white. It was a bit of a contradiction, obviously, but they seemed to view the blacked stuff as pro-white in a circular fashion, since the consumers of it were white. At least I think, it's been awhile.

Yeah, they never made their sex or race known. Even after talking one on one for a long time. My impression is that they were a hapa and a female, but I can't back that up by any real evidence. As you might expect from refusal to divulge any information like that, kind of closed off in a lot of ways.

>>3016
>they seemed to view the blacked stuff as pro-white
We saw that their schtick was subversion via gentle pace-and-lead-style hypnotic persuasion, so one might take the idea that they sincerely believed this with a big pinch of salt. When someone who gets their kicks from duper’s delight tells you that their interracial encouragement propaganda is all ackshually pro-white, it’s sensible to think about whether you’re just another mark to them, truthfully. What other things did they enjoy people believing?

>>3019
I mean I don't think they stated it like that exactly, I'm paraphrasing. Bear in mind, it's been awhile. But most of what they said, unrelated to their content, seemed pretty far removed from what you'd expect of someone making all the blacked stuff.

Like I said, they were a bit weird and contradictory. They also seemed to have active contempt for much of the cuckolds and associated fetishists, but also seemed to actively court their attention by tailoring content to them.

Keep in mind, also, that this was awhile ago, and they were making much less of the blacked stuff, but still a lot of cuckold stuff. We had something of a falling out a few months before tumblr banned pornography and the platform went to shit anyways. Interestingly, it was because of some jokes I made that they interpreted as being somehow disparaging of white culture and therefore felt that I was part of the problem of contributing to anti-white sentiment in society. Or something like that. Again, been a few years here.

>>2994
Finally back and with a modest update

>Teasing has resumed, albeit not explicitly
>Apparently any mentioning of things needs a "softer" touch
>still isn't fully comfortable with the idea of explicitly stating that she wants to watch or know that I'm having sex with another girl, as if saying it might make it real 
Saying explicitly that I fucked some mystery girl and that she loved it is a no-no, but showing up with candy bars and implying that I may have been an especially cheap himbo for it is okay
>Occasionally still tease about polygyny
>Most of these teasing tends to play into foreplay and has become fairly standard 
>Some of her reaction seems to be a mix between compersion, humiliation, jealousy, and a touch of after the fact voyeurism

So far this has been great and has seemingly improved our sexlife and gotten her to open up a bit about things, Thanks for the input guys

>>3015
It's probably Not That Deep and they just enjoy power dynamics, racial taboo, and cheating / forbidden fruit in general. It's probably easier to be that way if one doesn't need to have a self-insert angle on every fantasy.

>>3029
Nice, thanks for the update. I'm not the board owner but personally I think it's great if we can help someone have a better time incorporating the fantasy even if they never do any real cuckqueaning.

>>3029
>So far this has been great and has seemingly improved our sexlife and gotten her to open up a bit about things
That’s super-cute! You should invite her here if you ever decide to come clean about asking for advice from us.

>>3030
>I think it's great if we can help someone have a better time incorporating the fantasy even if they never do any real cuckqueaning.
Fully agree. OP’s wife is probably happier for having her fetishises accepted and played with on her own terms. I think it’s lovely.

>>3029
Well, I'm back again. 
Polygyny only comes up occasionally and now she's asserting a bit of a more "jealous" take on things, so some of the teasing is fairly rarer. I don't particularly mind, the particular possessiveness isn't bad at all, but that's not why I'm back. 

Current events in her "cousin's" (not actually her cousin, but calls her such anyways) life have thrown things into a bit of a mix. Her "cousin's" relationship ended on a bad note and apparently is making plans on just getting away for aehile. As such, I was informed her "cousin" would visit sometime in October. Then the inconsistencies started. 
>"She'll only be visiting for a day or so,"
Turned to
>"A couple of days,"
To
>"Just over a week,"
And now more recently
>"Just a couple or weeks or so,"

Allegedly the plan is for her to come out and visit during a local thing as part of a 'road trip', but that only lasts three days and I'm getting wierd vibes that it's far more likely that the plan is 
>Pack up and sell/store her stuff
>Visit some of her actually relatives
>Then de facto move in and just end up staying 
>Meanwhile Wife is talking her into things 

I think I'm being setup to be entirely honest. Not that I mind particularly, but it'd be nice to be properly included... But then again she might be concerned that I'd run off at the first sign of things. Dunno. I'll keep you guys posted.

>>3034
I dunno... Maybe? She definitely wouldn't be a fan of the porn here...

>>3030
About that... 
lmao

>>3175
To be honest I'd like to find out that I'm just being stupid and anxious and just reading too much into things. But a lot of things involved with this when thinking on it is very very weird...
I'm not crazy, right? The only alternative is, is that my wife has secretly arranged for her to live with us a nanny but... Idk

>Has her own house
>Has her own job
I'm not crazy for catching the 'vacation' timetable and realizing that you can't really take several weeks off at a normal job while maintaining it
>Timetable also doesn't make sense even further
Who goes on a roadtrip in October? Unless she's liquidating assets and selling her house in the meantime...
>Aside from the stupid local thing, has no reason to come out here or stay for several weeks
I'll be honest, my state blows and is a crime riddled shit hole. Literally nothing of value out here
>Wife has know her "cousin" longer than we've been married
They get along amazingly well and she knows that she'd be trustworthy around our kids...
>"Cousin" is older than us at 36
>"Cousin" is childless and unhappy about it
>"Cousin" shares religious and racial background, as well as general mores
>She is admittedly attractive, wife has even remarked such
>In practically everything she meets all of the criteria my wife requires

Admittedly I'd like for it all to just me reading too much into things. As I've said before, it's a Pandora's box. Thinking something is hot and actually doing it are different things, I'd rather have a happy and boring marriage; but I can't help but feel she's trying to arrange something.

Dunno. Going to try and find out without necessarily verging into cuckquean stuff in case I'm just being retarded and she's just being overly generous with our guest room.

>>3177
Update time

Had a general conversation with Wife about her "cousin". Not entirely sure what to think. 

>Didn't mention my suspicions 
>Just general dialogue on "hey, why does the time table keep moving? Is she moving in...?"
>"What about her job?"
>"Her house?"
>Responses were quite noncommittal and fairly unsure
>Don't know if this is because "cousin" is effectively imploding her current life as some women do after a bad relationship
Or
>Going to move in 
Or
>Wife is just trying to be accommodating and understanding
>None of it gives me any kind of confidence that she isn't planning something
>Just acknowledge that I'm fine with being accommodating for her "cousin" because of everything involved
>I honestly feel for the woman and wouldn't mind helping 
>But the idea of actually pursuing a Cq situation makes me incredibly anxious
>Not in a "I can't do this" way, but "this would be irreparable if it goes bad"

Biggest folding came when mentioning her house and why I suspect she isn't being entirely truthful. While it's not impossible to have several months mortgage payments set aside, who does that and roadtrips in October?

>>3193
I think you're reading into this too much, and that you're able to do this reveals the presence of a big communication void in your marriage.

>>3194
Possibly. 
The only void I'm really encountering is about the specifics for this though, we routinely spend at least two hours a day talking about everything. The only other alternative besides what I'm figuring is that "cousin"'s issues are significantly more serious and she doesn't want to discuss it or feels it'd be improper as it's someone else's business. 
>Did get general information and it wasn't good at all
>If it's worse than what I was initially told, It'd make more sense
>"Cousin" isn't at fault at all
>Also would explain the sudden liquidation of her previous life and all

If you're really women then prove it. Take a photo holding a note with the date written on it and obscure your face of course.  Just one will do, and then you can show that every time someone claims this board is full of men.  Or don't.

>>3200
lol. lmao. The problem with you’re having right now is that you don’t understood that when someone claims this board is full of men (hallelujah!) we don’t care because we already know what we are. There’s nothing for you here.

>>3195
Being set up for cuckquean stuff and unrelated life/financial reasons aren't mutex, but to me it kinda sounds like the non-cuckquean considerations are driving this.

>The only void I'm really encountering is about the specifics for this though, we routinely spend at least two hours a day talking about everything. The only other alternative besides what I'm figuring is that "cousin"'s issues are significantly more serious and she doesn't want to discuss it or feels it'd be improper as it's someone else's business.

Well hopefully it's not that, because if she's moving in with you, then it's become your business to a large degree. Also, I guess not everyone subscribes to this philosophy, but I don't feel a married couple should keep secrets or mislead each other about what they know, even if it's unflattering to some third party.

Note that legally speaking there is probably a threshold for amount of time before someone lives with you and has tenancy rights, and a month may exceed that time. Shouldn't matter unless things go really sour between y'all, I guess.

>>3201
>we already know what we are
Men.

>>3200
I seem to recall that we did this on the old 8ch board and it didn't do any good.

That said, I note that the thread you're currently shitting up is the "male advice containment" thread which one imagines contains at least one male, the OP. So we're not all women here in this thread. Is that enough of a victory for you to fuck off feeling good about yourself?

>>3203
cope

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Didn't know where to post this, so I'll use this thread.
Remember to satisfy your man or else you'll be cucked by a doll.

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>>3260
To be honest, that woman kind of deserved it. I know she might have not felt in the mood but her husband had very high libido so she should have done something about it to solve it. This is just general advice to women, if you give the man you are in relations with sex, he will stay with you and be loyal to you.  provided he is worth keeping his male logic will go something like this
>why would I go fuck that one woman over there if my gf/wife does everything i need her too.
forgot to mention I was the vixen/bull who cucked that stupid lesbian bitch with the horsecock
It's even better if the man you're with has very specific fetishes. The boyfriend I had in high school really loved feet and we had a really solid relationship that was based on love, mutual trust, my feet, and working on homework together. Speaking of that, I actually reached out to his wife and him. They're okay with me having a 3some with them and I'm going to go meet them across a couple of states when this semester of college ends. I've already set up a couple of pedicure appointments and use skin softening lotion daily. If his wife turns her nose up at the notion of giving her husband a footjob or anything else like that she's getting cucked hard and she's gonna love (^:
Sorry about blog posting about my sex life but I thought I'd share it with /cuckquean/. 3somes aren't technically /cuckquean/ material but I thought some of you'd want to know.

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>>3260
>cucked by a doll
What a situation. I know the simple surface answer is that she brought it on herself, but in truth one's sex drive isn't under conscious control and sometimes it can be fragile. Poor woman.

>>3298
>his male logic will go something like this
>why would I go fuck that one woman over there if my gf/wife does everything i need her too.
I think maybe we understand men differently. Where do you think you are?

>3somes aren't technically /cuckquean/ material
It's all in the context. If we were being strict, what'd determine whether it's cuckqueaning is the wife's attitude and experience as well as what she gets out of it.

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>>3260
Gosh, anon, this is the male advice thread, by which we mean giving advice to males.

>>3299
Source on those 3 comic pages? "Maid & Master" is proving expectedly difficult to search.

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>>3301
So that we don't derail this thread with eromanga discussion, I've responded in the eromanga thread at >>3303 and >>3304 instead.

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>>3298
>feet fetish
Now that's a fetish I don't understand and it seems quite popular. Even some famous personalities have it, like Quentin Tarantino, I think every single one of his movies have at least one close up to an actress feet.
I guess people don't know how one's feet may look after years wearing heels… I take good care of mine but I would be very shy to show them off.

>Sorry about blog posting
I think this thread is a bit like an open bar, for some queanies to vent off and other to RP as males.  So I don't mind a blog posting.
Besides, seeing a vixen point of view is quite interesting.  A Christmas cake like myself can only dream for a role role reversal but I'm happy with sloppy seconds.

>>3298
>spoiler
Hello again Anon, I remember you. Sounds like you already know the territory, and know how to feel out a good pace, no pun intended. 

>Sorry about blog posting about my sex life but I thought I'd share it with /cuckquean/. 3somes aren't technically /cuckquean/ material but I thought some of you'd want to know.
Some threesomes are certainly cuckqueaning, though others aren’t. I look at whether the quean-candidate is getting her pleasure from. If she’s getting her kick out of getting licked by the other F in the FFM or otherwise doing it directly for herself then it’s probably not cuckqueaning. If she’s in it so she can be right in the thick of her man going to town on the other F then it’s probably cuckqueaning.

If you did want to go into more of your Adventures in Vixenhood, I guess the place to do so would be in the Actual Cuckqueaning thread over at >>1465

Without any other cuckquean context, I just think it's kind of sweet that >>3298 is putting in the effort to make sure she'll be a good lay and able to best satisfy one of her partner's fetishes when threesome time comes around.

Webring's slow. I'm bored and morbidly curious:
Which would you pick? (Based on body alone, not the characters/personalities portrayed)
Spoilered for artistic male nudes.

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>>3329
>Based on body alone

Don't make it hard, the face is the most important part.
To answer your question, it's Michelangelo's David (since there are two Davids).
But I want to judge them as a whole, so I'll give a longer explanation ignoring your unfair constraint.

>Farnese Hercules
The beard gives me dad vibes I don't feel comfortable with.  Not saying beards are bad, just that I rather go with clean shaved or stubble and even stubble beard is hit or miss, it can make a man look sexy or unemployed.
His muscular body would make feel secure from others but vulnerable to him, this is the kind of thing I rather see than have.

>Michelangelo's David
Best one in my opinion.  Stoic face and swimmer body, pure aesthetics.

>Donatello's David
A bit too effeminate, I know some girl that love this form so it's up to the person, I guess.

You asked our opinions about statues and didn't even mentioned Apollo?  Shame on you!

>>3306
I've heard that, similar to how feet fetishism is mostly just a male fetish, hand fetishism is mostly a female fetish, to the point where the first thing a lot of girls notice about a guy the moment he enters a room are his hands.

>>3331
That's interesting.  I always check if a guy has well trimmed fingernails but I don't think this is fetish related (not consciously, at least) but  plain personal hygiene.
Besides, dudes with long nails are really weird.  Long hair? Ok.  Tight clothes? Well… sometimes.  Long fingernails? NO!

>>3329
>Heracles
Big dad energy, looks like he’s crack a cold one after mucking out the Augean stables.

>David, Michelangelo edition
Kinda has it all, like him the most.

>David by Donatello™️
Looks like he’d want to share my man too, don’t know what to tell you, this is a femboy and the model was probably a dancer or something.

>>3330
>Apollo
He’s alright, but that face under the anime hairdo on a Greek statue cracks me up ngl

>>3331
Only girls with foot fetishes I’ve ever heard of are lesbians liking other girls feet but it’s not like I went out of my way to look

>>3330
>>3334
Interesting, interesting. Thank you for your feedback.
>Apollo
I debated including a statue of Cupid or Ganymede.

>>3335
>Cupid
What?! Oh lord!
Shotacons are just men inserting themselves as the boy being molested.  And then there's this caricature of women lusting for boys like the comic you posted.  It's funny in this context and fine for comedic purposes but sickening everywhere else.
Specially because women can get away with doing despicable acts that would make a man jailed for life.
Don't get me started when some people see a boy being molested by a woman and then they say "Niceee".

Pardon my small outburst.  Changing subjects, what are your intentions with this small data sample? It's not enough to have any conclusion because this is a very niche forum.  Have your tried doing this on Insta or FB?

>>3336
Though I somewhat understand your outburst, weren't a lot of /ss/ artists women?

>>3337
>weren't a lot of /ss/ artists women?
Why would I know artists from a porn genre I have no interest?
If I was too hard about it, it wasn't my intention.  Let me clarify my point.
Drawings, 3D graphics or just plain textual descriptions of fictional characters and stories are fine.  Assuming they didn't involve real children in the process by, you know, exploiting them.
I've seen videos of great artists drawing amazing characters and landscapes from their mind, so it's not far-fetched that many artists can draw children from adult references and come up with manga about shota or loli.
I'm no position to kink shame others.  I get off by seeing my partner having sex with another woman and being degraded in the process.
So I'm sorry if I offended someone.

>>3338
>worrying about offending others
truly a cuck

>>3336
> intentions 
Just idle curiosity. Nothing so grandiose as data collection.
That said, given that cuckqueaning (sometimes, somewhat, depending on the type of quean, etc.) can contain an element of "My Man is high status enough that other women want to fuck him" I do wonder if there's a thread of commonality in /cuckquean/'s preferences.

> /ss/
I was joking. Although on an 8chan legacy board I guess you can never be sure... (I never, ever browsed /hebe/ - but that was all guys, right?)
And I hear you on a certain type of evil woman getting away with certain crimes. Each sex has its own black sins.
If it makes you feel better the running joke in those comics is that the drow always ends up in prison.
Images spoilered for being pretty offtopic.

>>3204
> and it didn't do any good.
Elaborate.

Also please advice needed. How do I tell my Black gf that I'm a White supremacist neonazi? I suspect that she already suspects since she asks to call her my "slave" and slurs during sex, asks me to "breed" her (and White girls therefore the board choice) but if she KNOWS I do not want her to think that I love her less, find her less attractive or respect her less as a person because of it. I know I could mask it off as a kink but she is my significant half and I'd rather come clean and perfectly honest with it.

>>3342
>How do I tell my Black gf that I'm a White supremacist neonazi?
>I'd rather come clean and perfectly honest with it.
“<name of black gf>, I am a White supremacist neo-nazi.” Make sure you include the hyphen; verbal punctuation is important.

>>3342
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>>3306
>I guess people don't know how one's feet may look after years wearing heels… I take good care of mine but I would be very shy to show them off.
Some people fetishize heels, but it is true that one good way to take care of one's feet is to... not wear heels. It's remarkable how much some women insist on it; I know how it makes the legs and butt look, but god, at what cost? Let me tell you, no-one told me it was sexy that time I sprained my ankle wearing them.

>>3318
>Without any other cuckquean context, I just think it's kind of sweet that >>3298 is putting in the effort to make sure she'll be a good lay and able to best satisfy one of her partner's fetishes when threesome time comes around.
Caring is sexy!

>>3329
Michelangelo's David > Donatello's David >> Farnese Herakles. Not because of the face; I'm just not into the femboy beestings or the spare tire. Since we're doing this in the male advice thread for some reason, I guess I should acknowledge that this isn't really a fair standard to hold men to; men past 26 or so will have some gut unless they're doing some really bullshit unhealthy cut diet for actors. Same for women.

>>3331
>I've heard that, similar to how feet fetishism is mostly just a male fetish, hand fetishism is mostly a female fetish, to the point where the first thing a lot of girls notice about a guy the moment he enters a room are his hands.
I'm sure it's sex-skewed, but I don't think it's skewed as much as women liking hands. I can count the men I've heard say they like hands on one of them, while I've definitely met women who liked feet. However, it's female feet that always seem to be fetishized; the only persons I've met who like to even look at male feet were 100% homosexual men. I think this is an artifact of it just being easier to take care of a woman's feet; the sexes have different skin, and while women might wear heels they are less often doing heavy outdoor work in work boots.

Being female isn't the only thing. It also helps to take care of your feet. Lotion, moisturizer in your soap and hand sanitizers, filing off dead skin and calluses and not wearing shoes that give you calluses. Wearing soft socks or houseshoes instead of going barefoot indoors helps. And sadly some of it is just genetic luck. Some women have rougher hands and feet, and there's a racial component to skin, with East Asian, Pacific Islander, and Native American girls having by noticeably softer hands and feet.

Truly, feet are the hands of the legs. Don't walk around doing handstands like a circus performer if you want to give handjobs. Unless your partner has a clown kink.

I guess there is also that it's much easier and seemingly more pleasurable to give a footjob than to... do the equivalent involving a vulva? This act is rare enough I'm not sure there is a name for it. But one can certainly rub and kiss the foot if that makes one happy.

>>3336
>Shotacons are just men inserting themselves as the boy being molested. And then there's this caricature of women lusting for boys like the comic you posted. It's funny in this context and fine for comedic purposes but sickening everywhere else. Specially because women can get away with doing despicable acts that would make a man jailed for life.
I think recurring examples of the latter - boys getting molested by their female teachers - disproves the former. Apart from that, I've definitely met some women into the drawn stuff.

>>3342
>Also please advice needed. How do I tell my Black gf that I'm a White supremacist neonazi? I suspect that she already suspects since she asks to call her my "slave" and slurs during sex, asks me to "breed" her (and White girls therefore the board choice) but if she KNOWS I do not want her to think that I love her less, find her less attractive or respect her less as a person because of it. I know I could mask it off as a kink but she is my significant half and I'd rather come clean and perfectly honest with it.
> white supremacist
> capitalizing "black"
> not viewing a black as inferior
uh-huh.

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> the spare tire
But... but... but those are his (astonishingly well developed) obliques. That depiction of Hercules has like 0% body fat. I think you can see his serratus muscles.

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>>3345
>Truly, feet are the hands of the legs.
At last I truly see.

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>Vixen likes to degrade and humiliate my GF verbally
>GF says it's okay. To me, it feels like bullying.
> I feel uneasy when it happens.
How do I stop feeling so overprotective?

>>3547
Depends. How strong degradation and humiliation are we talking, here? Did the vixen kinda feel it out or immediately went full on with it? Is your GF just “okay” with being bullied like that, or does she actually like it? Are you mainly uneasy out of concern that your gf is being hurt, or because you feel that if anyone’s going to bully her it should be you?

>>3548
>How strong degradation and humiliation are we talking, here? 
Mostly comments about stealing me or being a better woman. It's mostly in character, but it still feels wrong to me.
>Did the vixen kinda feel it out or immediately went full on with it? 
she progressively upped the ante, at first, there weren't any comments because as a group we were new to this. 
>Is your GF just “okay” with being bullied like that, or does she actually like it? 
She says it's part of the fetish, she says she gets off to it but it still makes me worry.
>Are you mainly uneasy out of concern that your gf is being hurt, or because you feel that if anyone’s going to bully her it should be you?
It's my concern for her, personally, I can't see the comments as anything other than mental self-harm.

>>3551
>She says it's part of the fetish, she says she gets off to it but it still makes me worry.
Sounds like she has told you it's ok, but you don't believe her. Why are you worried? do you think she wasn't truthful with you, do you have evidence to suggest she isn't actually ok with it? If not, and you can put it from your mind, I'd recommend not saying anything. Instead, I would suggest you make doubly sure to engage in quality aftercare. Words of concern are nice for sure, but showing her you care about her through aftercare is a key step to avoiding hurt feelings.

If it's really tearing you up to the point where it's impacting you, then you should probably talk to your GF again and tell her that you're worried. If you don't already have one, a safe word may be in order. If she was really upset by what was happening, she could use it to stop what's going on. If all that still doesn't calm your mind, then it sounds like a problem you're having rather than one she is having. That's ok, but that definitely means you need to talk to your GF and figure out a path forward together. This vixen may also just not be for you, or maybe you cant engage in this fetish right now. It maybe be as simple as having a talk with the vixen and letting her know you aren't comfortable with the degree of humiliation going on. Just be honest with yourself, be open with your GF, and things should work out fine.

>>3551
Cuckqueaning's something that should be enjoyable for everyone, so if you're there all torn up inside while your dick's in the vixen then that needs fixing. Everyone assumes that cuckqueaning's something a man will enjoy no matter what it's like, but that simply isn't true and you've as much a right to not have to participate in something that squicks you out as the girls do.

>It's my concern for her, personally, I can't see the comments as anything other than mental self-harm.
I'm a touch confused. You think that maybe your GF's lying about liking it, or that she likes it but that it'll damage her, or that she likes it but shouldn't? I mean, your question was
>How do I stop feeling so overprotective?
which is about your idea of her wellbeing rather than her wellbeing, if that makes sense.

On the face of it, it sounds like your GF and the vixen felt their way into a humiliation-driven dynamic that both of them seem to be enjoying, but that you're not. Assuming this enjoyment is genuine on both their parts and they wouldn't also enjoy a less humiliating, compersive dynamic just as much, you can learn to enjoy that dynamic, change it, or not participate any more. 

Each of those three options has a lot of ways you can go about it, all of which will depend on a lot of different things, so I'm just going to give some random ideas.

First and most obvious is
>Talk to your GF about it
I don't know how things are between you, but "it's weird, I know it's roleplay and you say you enjoy it, but I can't stop feeling uncomfortable and like I should protect you every time <vixen> says something mean, and it's throwing me off during sex" seems like an okay way to start the conversation. Dig into the details and figure out what specifically is squicking you out and why. Listen to what she has to say (assuming she's a good communicator who knows how to honestly talk about sex; not all women are) and see if together you can figure something out.

What it comes down to is
>Why do they like it?
>Why don't you like it?
>Can you do something else instead that everyone likes?

Some other ideas on how you might shift things around:
>Join in
Probably not going to work since you said that you
>can't see the comments as anything other than mental self-harm
but given that the vixen likes to tongue-lash your GF and your GF likes it, you could join in on the verbal bullying to help get your GF off. Sometimes participating in something and seeing the other person enjoying it helps to lessen anxiety because then the nature of the game is obvious. Maybe your GF would like a little bit of verbal humiliation from you too when the vixen isn't around, as a treat?

>Act as counterweight
LOCAL VIXEN NOT SO TOUGH AFTER BEING DOMINATED
This is also known as the "that's my girl you're talking to" solution. The vixen likes lording it over your GF? Remind the vixen who's in charge. (You. It's you; you're in charge, unless this is some kind of vixen-femdom thing in which case all the suggestions go out the window.) Vixen says she's the better woman? Grab her by the throat - or whatever suits everyone's boundaries - and have her prove it. Maybe everyone will like you taking charge like this so much that they won't miss the insults. This turns the vixen's verbal humiliation into a kind of bratting play, and your responding to it that way might satisfy your need to protect? But it also might turn into an escalating bedroom struggle-game, which I imagine would be exhausting if you're not into it.

>Figure out an alternative
The verbal humiliation squicks you. Is there some other and less verbal way the vixen can get her sadism fix and your GF her masochism fix?

>>3553
>>3554
Thank you for the advice, I'll take it into consideration.
>Sounds like she has told you it's ok, but you don't believe her. Why are you worried?
>I'm a touch confused. You think that maybe your GF's lying about liking it, or that she likes it but that it'll damage her, or that she likes it but shouldn't?
My worry stems from my view that it may be impacting her self-image. While I'm okay with playing a role in her fantasies, I don't want her to see herself in a bad light or as someone who is less deserving than others.
I have no evidence that it is impacting her but I still worry about it.

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Can you ladies do house chores? My fiancée does her best to be a housewife but she constantly fucks up and we end up with me either buying out or cooking after a hard day of work.

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>>3556
That seems more like your fiancée being a clumsy retard than anything relating to cuckqueaning.

Alright, I'm >>3540 and I have a question. Since I'm in a LDR, I got a green check on getting on with other women since she says she can't please me. Two issues though, where do I find girls interested in this, preferable somewhat secretly, and secondly, while I want this as it's a hot fantasy. I never really was someone who would go with other women or crazily pursue them. It feels so much not "me" that it hurts, but the fantasy of it makes me want to try it too. How do I get over that?

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>>3558
Doesn't sound much like cuckqueaning so much as a practical "arrangement". Is she getting off to the idea of you sleeping with other women?

>>3556

Pay for her to go to classes?

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I find my bf more attractive than this guy though he most likely objectively isn't. I would normally rate this dude as a solid 9 but can't there's something off that detracts from his masculinity but I can't put my finger in it. Is it the haircut? Is it the hairlessness? Is it that I'm too conditioned to beards? Is he TOO youthful?

>>3571
I find it really hard to rate the attractiveness of a picture, since personality matters so much for attraction, but I can also recognize that he's probably objectively attractive and yet I'm not attracted to him. I think it's because he looks like a fuckboy to me? He looks like he would blow me off to play basketball with his bros, then come home to play fifa all night and gaslight the shit out of me. Something about his facial expression doesn't say "confidence," it says "asshole."

>>3572
>Something about his facial expression doesn't say "confidence," it says "asshole."
Yeah, got that vibe too, and not in the genuine bad boy kind of asshole but more of a basic douche asshole. Now I feel kinda bad for judging some boy I don't even know solely because he showed his face in a picture of holding boobs, I'm becoming like my mother.

>>3572
>>3573
His being part of a halfchan screenshot doesn’t help.

>>3573
>Now I feel kinda bad for judging some boy I don't even know solely because he showed his face in a picture of holding boobs
I think these kinds of judgements are learned over our lifetime, and they're learned because our brain perceives a pattern there. We all cultivate a persona that we put on for others, and the one he is putting off is basic AF. We wouldn't be picking anything up if he wasn't putting off signals, and I'm not going to ignore obvious flags. If he asked me out and I have nothing but looks too go on, I wouldn't say yes, but if we had gotten to know eachother and he's shown he's substantially different from my first impression I might give him a shot.

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>>3571
There’s something spooky about this image. They’re looking at themselves posed on the screen, and that image is itself set inside anonymous others talking about what social labels they represent. She’s faceless; only a smudge of makeup and lips that suggest a posed, vacant erotic rapture. His body’s shaved, hair self-consciously groomed to appear messy, lit like he’s wearing eyeliner, and body rigged with the kind of bubbly plastic muscles that guys develop by doing nothing but isolation lifts. It’s a pose of a pose, void; they’re self-admiring objects set between the toilet roll and can of hairspray that frame the photo like tiny Corinthian columns.

The truth is that I don’t find him handsome or dangerous or Chadly or anything else those halfchan anons say I ought: I find him repulsive. I find him repulsive because I sense that the hungry void in this image is in him too, and I loathe it with my entire soul.

Four point five out of ten.

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>>3576
Nigga, that's all poetic n' shiet but tbh can't be really angry at him because he has the exact same body and scalp genetics as my man and those would look identical if the later gave enough fucks be a metrosexual call sour grapes if you want, but I now realize how uncanny it would be if he gave in to my requests to shave. Given the subject what's your opinion on body hair? My bf has very good distribution (hairy all over but no hairs on biceps, buttocks or back) and density but I'm afraid that Frank Frazetta and chinese cartoons have brainwashed me into preferring hairlessness and associating body hair with [ugly bastard].

>>3577
I don’t think anyone’s angry at him, just a bit repulsed, and that’s down to a personality read rather than pure looks per se. All the confused male replies are pretty funny regardless.

I like a bit of chest hair to run my fingers through and sometimes sniff. I don’t mind a bit of abdomen hair either, but then my man has a medium almost fluffy kind; maybe I’d mind it more if it was the thick, coarse, scratchy kind. Apart from looking pretty good if it’s well-kept, hair has other advantages: Bare skin can get all squelchy when he sweats during sex. Back hair’s a no; mine has some, but he keeps it under control together with his shoulder hair(???).

>Frank Frazetta and chinese cartoons have brainwashed me into preferring hairlessness and associating body hair with [ugly bastard].
Kek, bless that man.

>>3560
>Is she getting off to the idea of you sleeping with other women?
Alright, we talked it over. Yeah, she gets turned on by me getting it on with other women and me getting shared. How do I find an other girl who would be into this now? Also hmm. While she probably would like me to just have a second girlfriend too, I feel that's maybe going too far? I really do love her, but yeah. I don't know how to feel about this. It does turn me on though, I won't lie.

>>3616
Start slow and feel it out. Discuss in detail with her what she fantasises about, what parts appeal to her, what she’s comfortable doing at first, and so on. Cuckqueans enjoy sharing their men, but exact details really matter because every cuckquean has a different way that she enjoys sharing, as well as different ways she does NOT want to share.

gf for the 5000th time: "You are too good for me, you are way out of my league..."

me, with facetious frustration: "Maybe I should fuck other women then."

her: *blushing [ HEAVY BREATHING ]

I think I may have opened a major can of dickworms. What do?

>>3641
I think they make pills for that, or maybe a cream. Your GP should be able to sort you out.

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>>3642
>GP

Why board so slow nowadays?

>>3659
Our activity comes in bursts. You're not going to get continuous activity on a board as niche as this.

>>3195
Back finally, kept forgetting to post here.
Everything is more or less fine, cousin's issues are significant but not that bad but it's still an odd premise for things. If anything I'm likely slightly retarded, though I still suspect something is up despite the now more solid time table for things. Cousin will be leaving sometime in mid-November; however wife did name her as a prospective co-wife... 

If anything I'm thinking this is a general test run on her side if she'd be comfortable with another woman essentially living in the house and spending time with the kids or even me; as well as if shed be able to put up with another grown woman in general. They've known each other since she was a kid and she isn't prone to flying off the handle when upset emotionally, so if it is cq related it's got to be that. Likely making true on her "I get to pick her" declaration. She still isn't fully comfortable with admitting her wants though, like if she says it outloud that I might just take off, except apparently when pregnant and horny out of her mind so, idk. I have complicated feelings about her inability to tell me that in general, but I also understand considering issues with her family. 

Dunno. I'm just at this point resolving to be a good host and not worry about it except for proper, normal considerations.

>>3670
If your wife is indeed trying to do a limited dry run of co-wifeship then she’s half doing it right (by being careful) and half doing it real fucked up (by keeping it completely under wraps from you). I understand the many reasons why she might see the need to do it this way, though. It’s not like there’s a generally well-known way to bring it up, test it out, or deal with either positive/negative results.

The question in my mind is what’s a husband supposed to say after his wife, having done all this experimentation under his nose while denying she’s doing it, suddenly announces that she’s up for having a second wife around? It puts him in a very awkward position on multiple levels.

I think you’re probably doing the best you can by just saying “eh, whatever”, playing your role, and keeping a curious eye on things.

>>3672
I think it's just a continuation of the "realness" issue and a deep-seated worry that I might split. I'll be honest: I'm significantly more concerned about her thinking I'd ever leave than anything else. 

I don't think that's really her plan, atleast not necessarily and I have no idea about her "cousin". I honestly have no idea if shes even discussed anything with her, which is honestly far more important imo; unless she's similar or already knows. Or if she's just planning on bridging it up later... dunno. 

If anything I think it'd be a slow build up until she's living with us, everyone's comfortable, and then likely just stewing in sexual frustration over it until she snaps and demands I take her cousin on date to show her that I appreciate her doing housechores or whatever. And it'll likely escalate from there most likely.

>>2520
I personally can't stand the christ insanity and recommend you look into Paganism with a dose of ancestor worship. I really like the Odinia lady's website, and the best part is you can make your own local kindred and control your own beliefs. Not everyone is the same, nor do the same life arrangements work for everyone. Morality is great, and things like wanting to keep your house and marriage morally clean are excellent, but there is no point in going full fundie beyond that.

I always thought fundies disrespected morality pretty heavily by trying to dumb it down as much as possible. I think you're ascending, anon.

>>3773
Please don’t bring the Christian vs. modern “pagan” baiting into /cuckquean/; I can see from the /christian/ posts on the front page that the argument has nothing we want.

>ancestor worship
>make your own local kindred and control your own beliefs
Oh dear. Now I almost certainly know where this system is from, and it certainly isn’t ancient paganism. That will be enough, thank you.

>>3773
>>3776
We aren't discussing this for multiple reasons, cheifest of which being is that that's not what I made the thread for. The only reason it was mentioned was for background for better advice, if it isn't directly related to giving/getting advise or cuckqueaning I honestly don't want to hear it or see it

I'm really into cuckquean. My wife isn't, or at least claims not to be. I haven't told her I am, she brought up that she's not into it. So I go places like here to read it and enjoy it vicariously.

>>3824
>My wife isn't, or at least claims not to be.
She's telling you the truth.

>>3827
I trust that, yeah.

>>3791
Update time:
>"cousin" apparently had to cancel and change plans for now
>apparently planning for some later date and time instead
>wife apologizes for this and mentions whenever she does visit it'll be great

Well, that answers that. Why apologize for just normal life if it was just a friendly visit? Or the investment in a later visit?

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>>4060
Because cancelling and remaking plans for something relatively major like a houseguest is inconvenient?

>>4061
Where's the inconvenience though? It hasn't disrupted our day to day plans at all, the guest room is still there, and it cost us nothing at all. Dunno, I could be being an idiot but the apology reads out to me that she had plans and expectations about things like I originally assumed; she knows I wouldn't expect an apology at all for family or friends not coming over, and it's something that's never been done before.

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>>4569
Whatcha testing?

>>4570
well, I was testing before making this post, as it's my first

>>4575
for some reason I cant post my message. Is there a word limit?

>>4576
Yes, but it silently eats half your post and lets the first half go through (it is short enough to be relevant) so that's not what's at fault here.
/cuckquean/ has a bunch of random filters, but you'd be getting a unique message for those.

>>4569
Alright, I dont know how to start. I've written up 10s of drafts and I've decided to just go with it. I dunno how larpy I come off of as, but this is the internet and you are free to believe me ordisbelieve me or even humor me and pretend I'm telling the truth, which I'd like very much.
Sooooo, I'm a guy. Married to wonderful girl. No kids yet, but plan to have em. During after sex cuddles or when we are just together in public, we make up convoluted sexual stories, fantasies and larps. Some of which we roleplay with costumes when we can. 
One day, she tells me she likes the idea of cuckqueaning very much. I just laugh it off and be like, what I'd consider the typical guy thing to do, was say how lucky I am or something. She says she doesn't want to bring the fetish to reality, but would just rather we larped about it. Absolutely fine by me. Only now I've been frantically going through every thread here and the archives of 8kun all day pretty much to understand as much as I can because I remember coming across this board name long ago. Just so that I can get my bearings.
There's two things I humbly ask all of you to clarify for me. 
First and formeost, how different and separate are the humiliation and compersion aspects? Is it strictly one or the other or some varying mix of both? Because while I can totally empathise and relate to the compersion part, I feel really really uncomfortable taking part in feeding into a thing if it's mostly masochistic humiliation. I feel like if my waif is masochistic, I should rather be working with her to find the source of the trauma or something? Am I wrong for thinking this? Please do tell if I am or not. 
Secondly, this might sound petty or pathetic, or me going out of my bounds, but like, you know how some men have racial insecurities about whether their girl chucks him with a black man, or a white man ? Well, I never had any of those, but I've been deathly phobic of lesbians cucking me. I've had this happen to me before my marriage with a previous relationship in fact, a bi girl in middle school who hated me "turned out" by then straight gf to spite me and I've not taken the rejection well. So what I want to know and be prepared for is, how much bisexuality is involved in cuckqueaning. I just want the facts so I know what I've gotten into. I am so sorry for being all over the place and all. But pls no bulli. PS I dont know if my wife browses this board either, and I'm not sure if I'd be glad or regret to find out. All I can say is, if this story sounds familiar, please just... I dunno, pretend I'm a different anon? Or not. I really dont know.

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>>4578
Thank you for posting this in the male advice thread. You've no idea how many ill-mannered blow-ins decide to vomit their witless demands all over whichever thread they happen to have scrolled down to.

You ask us to clarify two things, and I will - but in return, would you answer a question for us? I'll ask it at the end.

First, please keep in mind as you read that cuckqueaning is a deeply personal thing to every cuckquean, once you get into the details. There are various common elements that some cuckqueans share with some other cuckqueans, and so some words have developed because terminology helps condense bundles of more complex concepts down and gives them handles that help us talk about them. So, it'll be important as you read these answers to remember that the map is not the territory, and I am not representative of anything or anyone but myself.

>First and formeost, how different and separate are the humiliation and compersion aspects? Is it strictly one or the other or some varying mix of both?
It differs from cuckquean to cuckquean, and I sincerely hope some of my fellow posters will chime in with their insights too. Some will hew strongly to one pole or the other, some will experience both simultaneously, others will focus on one or the other depending on their moods, and still others will seek both separately. We distinguish between humiliation-driven and compersive cuckqueans because that was once the subject of a small holy war, so having both labels circulating immediately reassures both types that they're in good company. I hope that some of my fellow cuckqueans will be able to chime in and give examples of how they experience the fetish, because it's important for you to see that it is different.

Allow me to warn you that falling in love with these labels is tempting, but a bad idea. If you treat cuckquean classifications like horoscopes you'll come to ruin, or at the very least end up missing a lot. Experience and map, then classify and categorise.

I, for example, am nearly completely compersive and the idea that it would be humiliating for my man to fuck other girls with my full-throated encouragement is a little alien. I understand it, empathise with it, can mimic it if I try, can imagine being inside a humiliation-driven head with some effort, but it is not where I live. My compersion has its own unique details which may or may not mesh with how other compersive cuckqueans experience the fetish, such as my desire to nurture and serve, my mania for scent, and my focus on my man's (as opposed to the vixen's) pleasure.

But even for me, this isn't 100% ironclad. I remember a time just before my man was about to head out to play with a vixen solo, when he had me straddle and grind against his erect cock, both our underwear still being on. He folded his arms, gave me this smug look, and told me I could do that all I wanted (and I did want, very much) but that all his cum was going into <vixen name> tonight, so there'd be none for me. Usually when I go down into subspace it's a controlled descent, but his words right then were like a face-kick that sent me spiralling straight down into the depths. He told me later that I started slurring, nearly lost the ability to talk, which surprised me because I thought I was begging (all the better for him to refuse) in between humping his crotch and pressing my face against it. None of it made sense, but I don't have to make sense when I'm horny.

But if he told me at that moment that <vixen>'s pussy felt so good that he never wanted to use mine again? I think I'd probably have collapsed into a crying ball, and not the good kind. Yet that's exactly what some other girls want to hear, what they need to hear.

So: Yes, it can be a mix, but exactly what goes into that mix is tremendously important.

>Because while I can totally empathise and relate to the compersion part, I feel really really uncomfortable taking part in feeding into a thing if it's mostly masochistic humiliation. I feel like if my waif is masochistic, I should rather be working with her to find the source of the trauma or something? Am I wrong for thinking this? Please do tell if I am or not.
Oi, cut that out, don't think we can't see you trying to outsource your superego! (And there's that fucking "trauma" word again; that damned cult has a lot to answer for.) Anyway.

If your wife wanted you to spank her, which has masochistic elements, would you feel it to be a symptom of an underlying neurosis? How about if she wanted you to slap her, as a treat? Pull her hair? It's true that sometimes these can be ways of expressing and processing damage caused by traumatic experiences, but it's not as common as the present breathless pop-psychological culture would have you believe.

I love a good whack on the rump because it's stimulating, naughty, and asserts my place beneath my man. Does my enjoying it mean I am expressing ~*~trauma~*~? Hell, could be - I can't diagnose myself, by definition. But it doesn't feel bad, and it doesn't AFAIK link into any detrimental complexes or maladaptive behaviors, so under any standard diagnostic criteria it'd be of little concern on its own. Constantly ferreting for mysterious trauma can itself be neurotic, albeit the kind of neurotic that certain practitioners find very good for revenue.

>I've been deathly phobic of lesbians cucking me. I've had this happen to me before my marriage with a previous relationship in fact, a bi girl in middle school who hated me "turned out" by then straight gf to spite me and I've not taken the rejection well.
What a bitch. I'm sorry that happened to you. For all my contempt towards the overuse of trauma, it's true that bad things can leave behind nasty scars in our minds.

>So what I want to know and be prepared for is, how much bisexuality is involved in cuckqueaning. I just want the facts so I know what I've gotten into.
Again, it depends. Example: I'm not into girls on their own, but I know when they're cute and I'm into my guy being into them. Tits are nice, pussies too, and both are improved by my man's enjoying them. Does my thinking pretty pussies, bountiful breasts, humpable hips and bouncy butts look fuckably fun make me bisexual? I don't feel so, and while others might disagree their opinion is irrelevant to whether I want to have sex with another woman or not, and since I don't want, the matter remains closed.

Yet I like spreading vixens open for him, I sometimes enjoy warm physical contact with a vixen while she's being fucked, and one time my man handed me the remote control to a vibrator in a vixen while she was blowing him, which I found fun because it was like I was helping train her to serve him better. But if one tried to kiss me? No thanks, not unless it's around my man's dick as part of a double blowjob, and even then if I felt she was making a little much of it I'd probably back off. Or maybe if she was doing it to share a little of her post-blowjob mouthful with me (how polite!). If one tried to touch my pussy? Uh-uh, that's not for you. If one wanted me to eat her out? No. I think I'd probably lap up a creampie, but since he's never come raw in a vixen it's a moot point, and in any case it's more about his cum than her pussy for me. Some might take these things as an opportunity to tie themselves into introspective knots over these things, but I'm honestly not terribly worried about it because I already know what I want, and what I want is my man in other women, not the other women themselves.

Some cuckqueans are super into girls, to the point where their cuckqueaning seems to involve their sexual bond with their man being stolen away and replaced by a nominally-involuntary sexual bond with the vixen instead, but I can't explain that one from the inside. Maybe someone who identifies with that will chime in.

Others are casually bisexual because they want to put on a show, still others because it's fun to help out. Yet others are strictly hands-off, with zero sexual interest beyond what their man is doing.

See how the details matter?

Okay, I said at the start that I had a question for you:
>One day, she tells me she likes the idea of cuckqueaning very much. I just laugh it off and be like, what I'd consider the typical guy thing to do, was say how lucky I am or something. She says she doesn't want to bring the fetish to reality, but would just rather we larped about it. Absolutely fine by me. Only now I've been frantically going through every thread here and the archives of 8kun all day pretty much to understand as much as I can because I remember coming across this board name long ago. Just so that I can get my bearings.
You've asked us a lot about what cuckqueaning is and its details, but you've not told us the most important thing: What does your wife think it is? Have you asked her? She wants to LARP it, but what, in her mind, would that involve?

>PS I dont know if my wife browses this board either
Hey, Anon's wife! Your husband seems sincere, if a little jumpy, so I'm sure he'll calm down and find his feet with a bit of encouragement and practice. Here's a free field-tested cuckquean LARPing tip: Lie face up, have him kneel over you, facing towards your feet, and then have him fuck your tits or your hands. Great view IMO, and you can even pull him "out" and suck on him a bit from time to time. Your imagination will be able to fill in certain gaps no problem. Dirty talk, ball-kissing, and/or leg nipping optional.

Honestly though, you should really just put the poor guy outta his misery and let him know you browse here too. Or if you don't, and he's finally worked up to showing you, welcome!

>>4584
wow, I am really grateful with how deep you went in.
Well, let me start with your question first.
>What does your wife think it is? Have you asked her? She wants to LARP it, but what, in her mind, would that involve?
ok, maybe if I greentexted our entire convo it might paint a better picture. 
W is wife, M is me
>M: hello anoness, got anything new in mind to try in bed? Or to read any manga together?We've tried out quite a few of our fantasies, and explored quite a few new manga categories together and I've enjoyed it this far.
>W: well, there is this one thing, have you heard of cuckqueaning? So it's like ntr, but it's the girl getting cucked when her man cucks gf with another girl
>M: Hah, so you want set me up with a threesome? What has lil ol me done to deserve this?
>W: No no no, I don't want to involve someone else with us, or not yet at least. Just too shy to actually approach another girl, or worse, to let anyone else find out. I don't want your or my family to think I'm a nymph
Maybe now is a good time to mention, we are both in a third world country where both our families keep really close contact with each other. In fact, my wife's brother married my female cousin too, which means our families are even closer together, and aunts and cousins visit us almost daily.
In fact, most times we have sex,
 we go to the local equivalent of a love hotel here.
>M: Look, you don't have to worry about our families bla bla bla. And I won't do anything you're not ok with, but are you sure this isn't another shot test or something?
>W: No no, for now, I just want to maybe read manga about the topic together, and then later maybe you tease me about a bit about what it'd be like to actually have a threesome
>M:ok, but like isn't NTR pretty dark? I didn't figure you to be masochistic, and I really don't think I have it in me to be sadistic.
>W: No, only cuckqueaning from male perspective is written by most authors to be sadistic. But it's not like that. I want to see you be happy with like, concubine or sidechick and I trust you to not leave me completely.
>M: this is getting weird. Why wouldn't I be happy with you? Why would you enjoy seeing me with another girl? Is it a compression thing? Babe, blowjobs are really more than enough if you want to purely just give pleasure. Besides, how long have you been curious about this cuck thing, Im not sure if I am ready to reciprocate either
>W: It's cuqueaning and trust me, I don't want you to be the one being cucked, it's actually ruin it for me, some things are fine being one-sided.. It's getting  late today. Let's just wait for the weekend, and read some mangas I've downloaded together like we do for other fantasies.
 For example, I have a straight shota fantasy where I self insert as the shota, we'd go through mangas together and then maybe re enact some of our fav scenes together later. I assume this is the kinda stuff we will be doing Saturday.
Honestly, the tip you mentioned sounds like the stuff she'd be wanting to do.
Sex bw the two of us, but certain positions where she lets her imagination feel in certain parts.
>Oi, cut that out, don't think we can't see you trying to outsource your superego! (And there's that fucking "trauma" word again; that damned cult has a lot to answer for.) Anyway.
No no, I'm really sorry. If I meant to outsource my ego or whatever I didn't mean to. I was just too anxious and frankly I've not recovered from the shock of her telling me about this. Back then, I thinking it's too good to be true or that it's still an elaborate shit test of sorts. Hell, my first thought was that she made the word cuckqueaning up.
But I've read through quite a bit of the posts here and I can clearly see it's a thing. And I'm familiar with hair pulling, spanking or even aggressive throat sex. 
I dunno mang, I didn't want to belittle anyone here and I'm really sorry

>>4584
ok, speaking of the holy war between compersion and humiliation cuckqueans, I've seen this being mentioned elsewhere. The purely humiliation types, they have internalised this thing where men are expected to be unable to be monogamous, and that woman is too..... inadequate.
Ok, I just want to explain a bit about why that rubbed me the wrong way at first, I really don't want to impose or belittle.
I've mentioned earlier that I am lesbophobic.
You know when lesbians say, men are all incapable of understanding women and are selfish,  they just use women as cocksleeves to get their orgasm then they discard her, and stuff of that vein?
Well, I am overly self conscious of that and actively go out of my way to be the opposite of that. My cunnilingus game on point, I make sure she cums, and everything. That's all really. I really mean no disrespect, and it's fine for anyone to be into the humiliation part. I just wanted to understand it better and make sure, I'm not the one messing up in any way.
And not gonna lie, I was surprised my wife had any inclinations to cuckqueaning because, as you may have realised, I can be versatile, I often prefer being the submissive and she seemed to fit in her role of being more dominant, yet nurturing. Oh yeah, she's also older than me by a few years.

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>>4589
>No no, I'm really sorry.
Not at all, Anon - it's I who should apologize for baring my fangs at someone who was just trying to communicate as best they knew how. Crowdsourcing the superego in this case is a pretentious way of talking about a thing some people do where they use the opinions of others to make moral or ethical decisions without ever developing a conscience of their own, but I see you were just feeling a little lost under a flood of information you hadn’t yet managed to digest. I misread your words and should not have rebuked you. I'm sorry for doing so.

>>It's cuqueaning and trust me, I don't want you to be the one being cucked, it's actually ruin it for me, some things are fine being one-sided.. It's getting  late today. Let's just wait for the weekend, and read some mangas I've downloaded together like we do for other fantasies.
Your wife sounds like she'd fit right in here, which is to say she sounds cool. I assume you've seen our eromanga thread over at >>6 ?

>>I don't want your or my family to think I'm a nymph
We have similar challenges. Were someone in our direct social, work, or family circles to spot my man solo with a vixen, they would naturally conclude he was cheating on me, with all the reputational and possibly other consequences that entails. Explaining would be very messy and could never travel as fast as the original fire. Even worse, because cuckqueaning seems so one-sided, it may even be assumed that I've been tricked, pressured, or otherwise abused into it.

I am stridently against cheating, so I think these protective social mechanisms are a good thing and don't want them weakened or given more loopholes, but they are something we have to operate in the shadows of. Should we ever be busted, well... I can only tell the truth to whomever will listen, but it's a conversation I'd rather not have to have.

>>4590
>The purely humiliation types, they have internalised this thing where men are expected to be unable to be monogamous, and that woman is too..... inadequate.
Ah, you have been reading of the original old-school Jenn Coney (or whatever her name was, I'm not in a position to look it up now) wave of cuckqueaning, which was very extreme in quite a few ways, hence the pushback from the compersive gals that lead to the tiny holy war. That was a whole thing, yes, but the humiliation-driven queans one sees today don’t tend to conform to that old template, most having felt things out on their own instead of being told how to do it by some central pseudo-eceleb. I don't think I’ve ever come into contact with a quean who follows that old way, though I'll grant you that /cuckquean/ isn't going to be a representative sample of anything, for which I am thankful.

>I really mean no disrespect, and it's fine for anyone to be into the humiliation part. I just wanted to understand it better and make sure, I'm not the one messing up in any way.
That’s fine. I understand your concern if you thought humiliation-driven queaning meant Jenn's degradation-mandatory zero-control zero-consent dogma. A part of me still finds it shocking too, but that group's control of the term was broken by the little war, so we no longer have to worry about it!

>I was surprised my wife had any inclinations to cuckqueaning
Perhaps she was too. The way it happened for many of us is that we found ourselves, often from inside a relationship (although we have a few queans who awoke while single), developing all kinds of other little fetishes and fantasies that kind of lined up in a weird way we didn't fully understand and were worried that meant something was wrong with us, until one day we happened to stumble across something that pointed us to cuckqueaning and click! we realized that it was what we'd been orbiting all along. It can be quite a relief! That's why I explain all this: I know what it's like to be lost and confused, and I want other cuckqueans to be able to have that surge of relieved elation when the darkness lifts and they are finally able to stand securely in their fetish, even if it stays something they secretly schlick to or want to keep to sexy fantasy and roleplay, both of which are absolutely fine to do.

>>4592
imagining a foxgirl explaining these things is somehow really comfy

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>>4589
>>4590
How did it go with your wife over the weekend, Anon?

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>>4614
>the long silence

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>>4622
I-I'm sure everything is fine. Anon and his wife just had such a good time reading cuckquean eromanga together that they both ended up in the hospital with acute dehydration.

>>4614
>>4622
awww yall missed me. Im sorry I am late. But as you said here >>4630
It is unbelievable how much fun we both have had.
Like she unironically enjoyed it so much and so earnestly, that I finally got over any feelings of guilt or anxiety that she'd suddenly pop up and say it was a test all along, and got into it fully.
And when I say fully, I mean that I finally understood the full weight of what exactly I am enjoying.
Which is me possibly having a harem and my main girl egging me to enjoy all my sidechicks fully.

>>4643
>>4643
oh man, I want to tell you guys as much as I can, but I dont know where to start. Feel free to ask questions.
ALso another reason ive been so busy is my wife somehow convinced me to book a last minute christmas vacation to our neighboring 3rd world country. 
So apparently, it's harder to fantasise cuckqueaning when youre basically surrounded by people youve been too familiar with all your life.
Not gonna pretend I understand it, but whatever.
So she wants to go out in crowded touristy areas with me, and basically perve around and tell her who looks like the ideal vixen to me ( and then go home and fuck each other while we pretend she is still with us. I promised her she'd have full control on when or even if an actual sentient vixen ever gets involved).

Also, I cant begin to thank you regarding how amazing youve been, but I have another silly little thing I could use advice on from a female, and more specifically a cuckquean perspective.
You see, everytime we'd fantasise about there being a vixen with us while we had sexy time, she'd basically ask me to paint as detailed a picture as I can with how the vixen looks, or whether there's any anime character she looks or sounds similar to etc.
>(I know it may seem a bit childish, but honestly, it's not a bad start and if it works for us both it works)
Now, there is one rather obvious part I have kept dodging or only slightly glossing over and over again (rather skillfully if I do say so myself) despite her repeated attempts at trying to go there.
It's well. The vixen's tits. My own wife, is of the itty bitty titty commitee. Never bothered me before, wont be bothering me now, but I realise I want to and even need to tease her a little bit to be a good husband.
And considering we are soon gonna upgrade from hentai and porn to the beach to ogle at women together basically, the TQ (titty question) will come up eventually.

Now normally, I consider myself pretty sensitive and tactful when it comes to dealing with women in general, let alone my wife.

However, at the end of the day, I am still, believe it or not, a male. Being good with words and expressing emotions have never been our forte, and the dudes who claim that women totally see them as one of the gals, often turn out to be the most clueless, even the gay best friends.

To elaborate on my point, this part in particular from  >>4584 really stuck out to me, as in, it is a common mistake the average male could easily make UNWITTINGLY.
>But if he told me at that moment that <vixen>'s pussy felt so good that he never wanted to use mine again? I think I'd probably have collapsed into a crying ball, and not the good kind. 
Now, when I first read it, it felt obvious to me that I'd never be that dumb to say something like this, especially when I was so concerned about not being the bad guy.
But....I can't shake off the feeling that hindsight is 20/20.

So, what's the main thing I am asking after all the rambling?
How to tease a mammarily deficient girl with the idea of a buxomy buxom mistress, without well, actually making her suicidal?
I like to think I can pull it off pretty well on my own, but some helpful advice and perspective from actual females is always helpful.

>>4644
and seriously, ask me more of anything youd like. What was meant to be a weekend of cuddles turned into an almost entire week of constant lusty sex and this is the only place I can proudly boast of it, no matter how humble it be

>>4644
>So she wants to go out in crowded touristy areas with me, and basically perve around and tell her who looks like the ideal vixen to me
man, who knew touching grass was this much easier when you had your wife to help you lol.

>>4589
>wow, I am really grateful with how deep you went in.
damn lol, I forgot I said this

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>>4647
Wonderful, Anon! You seem very excited, and for good reason. There are some things that it's important to keep in mind at this stage of things, but I'm not able to respond as thoroughly as I'd like right now. Still, I did want to at least let you know that I'm very happy to hear things went so well for you two. It stirs fond memories of my and my man's own first steps into cuckqueaning.

In the meantime, I do have something to ask - apart from "tell us all about it! more! more!", of course - which is the same as my original question, but extended: What have you now discovered about your wife's particular way of experiencing this fetish? Also, what have you discovered about your way of experiencing it from your side? Cuckqueaning discussion can get very female-focused, so it's important to remember that you, her man, are also a very important participant with your own needs and feelings that need to be taken into account.

Really though, whatever you'd like to tell us is OK. This is the thread for it, and you'd be surprised how even the smallest things can turn out to be interesting or important.

Oh, and one last thing before I go:
>whether there's any anime character she looks or sounds similar to etc.
>(I know it may seem a bit childish, but honestly, it's not a bad start and if it works for us both it works)
Anon, really, have you seen our threads? This is an imageboard - many of us do that too. When I woke up this morning and watched my beloved's sleeping face in that comfortable warm just-awoken state, my mind drifted to a fantasy of hugging him from behind and kissing his neck while he fucked a foxgirl. (And yes, I did imagine myself reaching forward and taking a few cheeky feels of her tail.) When we're playing games or watching anime together, I sometimes tease him about which of the characters need to have his dick in them. The list goes on. We like what we like!

These things are only as childish as you make them; attitude is everything. You and your wife's relationship is just that - yours, so don't let anyone tell you you're not allowed to be weebs in the bedroom!

>>4643
>>4644
How’d wifey find out about cuckqueaning anyway?

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>>4646
Which mangas did your wife pick?

>>4649
>>4649
>>4649
https://nhentai.net/g/385650/
this was the first one she read that made her seriously think about threesomes in general. Then cuckqueaning gradually.
. So, a brocon nee-sama comes to confront her younger brothet about pictures a friend of hers had taken of him with a mysterious older woman near a love hotel. Turns out the same woman was hiding under his blankets, amd shee convinces the older sister to join in a threesome rather than just killing the "home wrecker"

>>4650
yeah lol, my wife and I both enjoyed redo of healer. My wife more so

>>4650
There's one I cant find it in the history now.
It was like this series with 9 or so entries, where each entry has one potential female suitor dating (and fucking) a rich heir where at the end, he makes a choice who will be his wife.
Other than that, there was this
https://nhentai.net/g/135433/
https://nhentai.net/g/354003/
https://nhentai.net/g/432376/
https://nhentai.net/g/432657/
there was one another, osagari sex friend. No english translation, but the pics were hot enough
among all others there was porn too

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>>4648
>What have you now discovered about your wife's particular way of experiencing this fetish?
she isnt yet sure what she likes best. But she has two recurring themes, and she knows for sure what she doesnt like. She definitely wants vixen to be submissive to both me and her. (fun fact, she used to call the vixen the "cuckquener" and herself the cuckqueanee).
She seemes to be on the same page as you on the bisexuality thing. She still doesn't want me to cheat. She wants to be in the know and in control on who the third party is and when. 

And the two common themes she likes to go for is her using me, to "teach" an inexperienced girl how to get fucked like a slut.
Or, she's treating me to a close friend of hers.
Maaaaaaan.
Oh, interesting to note. We never do anal. Well we tried it a few times, she didnt like it, i felt it was overrated and we didnt continue.
She really really wants me to fuck the vixen's ass out. A tad bit concerning, shed want me to sex her with some porn going on in the background of woman screaming in what seems more pain than pleasure sometimes.

>>4648
>These things are only as childish as you make them; attitude is everything. You and your wife's relationship is just that - yours, so don't let anyone tell you you're not allowed to be weebs in the bedroom!
Man, I am just so grateful youre here to help
>Cuckqueaning discussion can get very female-focused, so it's important to remember that you, her man, are also a very important participant with your own needs and feelings that need to be taken into account.
I get that. Im totally fine with that.
Ive done a lot of my fantasies, and still do many with my wifey.
I know if something else pops out, I can always share it with her.
But for now, I just want her to be happy, and to not be the bad guy.
Like I said before, Im still a lot more of a giver and I derive pleasure if my wife is happy.




Coincidentally, Ive been asking her a lot of questions, and she finally relented and told me why she wants to cuckquean.
She feels I am too good for her.
That she doesnt deserve me.
I asked her if she cheated or anything or have any other secret.  She swears she doesnt. She just feels, insufficient. We cllick together so good, we can be so open with each other without either ever losing respect for each other.
This, obviously made me really happy. Im right now in my veranda smoking my cigarrete and just grinning like an absolute retard. But sometimes, this very thing she said, gives me anxiety too, and I need more cigarettes.
After the sheer number of times trannies have called me an incel, it sometimes feels too good to be true, having the wifey I have now. Like, we already have names for our kids n shieeeet.
I'm reallly the happiest a man can be, and I really am perfectly ok, to focus on her side of how she wants to take things from here.

>>4648
Merry Christmas anonness :')

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>>4645
>there is one rather obvious part I have kept dodging or only slightly glossing over and over again (rather skillfully if I do say so myself) despite her repeated attempts at trying to go there.
Anon. Do you truly think your wife - the same wife who discovered, investigated, and chose to introduce cuckqueaning - hasn't noticed that these hypothetical vixens have a blanket of opaque white mist where their tits should be?

I've never lived the chestlet life so I'm not qualified to speak on its finer points (hurr), but I can guarantee one thing: Your wife already knows her tits are small. What does she think of them, and of the fact that some other women are endowed with tracts vaster than hers? Could be a few different feelings, probably many at the same time. What are they? I can't tell you, but perhaps you've already realized who can: Your wife.

We're not formed from antique glass filigree, Anon. We're people. People different from you and your sex, yes, but people nonetheless. We've rational souls too, allegedly, and we're not looking for an excuse to shatter with one careless tap. I can see that I gave you the wrong idea, so let me explain what I meant by the part of >>4584 that you're quoting:
>He folded his arms, gave me this smug look, and told me I could do that all I wanted (and I did want, very much) but that all his cum was going into <vixen name> tonight, so there'd be none for me.
>But if he told me at that moment that <vixen>'s pussy felt so good that he never wanted to use mine again? I think I'd probably have collapsed into a crying ball, and not the good kind. Yet that's exactly what some other girls want to hear, what they need to hear.

That last part's important. I was pointing out another example of what I hammered on again and again: Every cuckquean is different and might need different things at different times.

The real question you should be asking yourself is why my man chose to say what he did at the time that he did in the way that he did, instead of saying what I wouldn't have been able to bear hearing in that moment of deliciously vulnerable arousal. Neither were obvious things to say, neither would have been my usual thing. So how'd he know? He's certainly not psychic - he barely listens to me using his normal ears, though to be fair I can prattle. No, he knew what to say because he knew me, he knew what made me tick down there, he knew how I felt and acted, how I responded to different parts of cuckqueaning. How'd he come by this forbidden ken? By talking to me about it, and experimenting. A lot. Many times. He knew where he could push me, he knew where not to tread, he knew my patterns, could hear in my breathing what I needed even if I couldn't, and when he chose his moment it was... yeah, it was pretty good.

There's nothing my guy did that you can't do, but you have to stop assuming you're going to break your beloved like some big dumb oaf and start actually being genuinely interested in what's going on between her ears and between her legs both. (Hey, Anon's wife! You're excited to discover and share that stuff with Anon, right? Makes you feel giddy and fizzy and deliciously kept to imagine him being able to just... mmmm, yeah? Damn right!) That means you using your tongue, and she using hers. She wants it, you want it, so trust me when I say she's going to extend you a lot of credit in the getting of it.

Talk to your wife. For all you know, your wife wants every cup size in your palms. Or maybe she is sensitive about breast size, and a nice little conversation about it will bring that out. Or maybe she wants you to fuck buxom bombshells. Or - you guessed it - she might want all of these things at different times. She already knows you like her tits! You do... you do like her itty bitty titties, right? Wouldn't swap them with anyone's? You have already enthusiastically demonstrated this by word and action both? Then no problem. Talk to her about it. She probably wants to tell you!

Which brings me to the part that's gonna blow your mind: She wants to know what you want, too, because your wanting excites her. Woah! Could it be that women also enjoy it when their men get off? Does it not make sense that a woman with a fetish about her man getting off with other girls would like to know all about those other girls? Men love variety, and cuckqueans love that men love it - at least, I do. Maybe your wife will love that too. Only one way to find out.

If all that hasn't already equipped you, here is a suggestion to get you started: Next time you're playing "describe the vixen" and your wife's soaking herself to all the little details you're painting for her, bring yourself around to the matter of the breasts, and pause. Use a little showmanship - get your wife real invested - and then reveal... what? What you're truly imagining. Men who know what they want are sexy.

Alternatively, paint two vixens for her at the same time - yes, a threesome she can watch! - with differently-sized breasts. Tell her - assuming this is true - that the variety turns you on, that you want to try every size under the sun. Again, it's got to be true - she's not looking for you to please her by wimping out on your own appetites, she's getting her pleasure from your pleasure.

>Which is me possibly having a harem and my main girl egging me to enjoy all my sidechicks fully.
Welcome to the first part of the honeymoon phase! There's an important piece of advice you need to hear, and it's the same one I'd give your wife: Enjoy yourself, but don't lose your head. You're dreaming of harems-to-be, everything's bursting with sexy promise. Enjoy yourself, be excited, but don't drift off into the clouds. Cuckqueaning's got its own traps and snares, and like all traps and snares they love those who don't watch their feet. The here and now is still pretty exciting, right? Stay in it as much as possible.

>So apparently, it's harder to fantasise cuckqueaning when youre basically surrounded by people youve been too familiar with all your life.
You don't get that? It was the same for me. Our first real experiments with cuckqueaning happened on holiday. When you're somewhere else, in a wholly fresh place, surrounded by those who you don't know and who don't know you, you gain a certain mental freedom. Things that don't seem possible suddenly are within mental reach. Of course your wife wants to go fox-spotting somewhere where she doesn't have the mental ghosts of her family watching over her shoulder!

>She seemes to be on the same page as you on the bisexuality thing. She still doesn't want me to cheat. She wants to be in the know and in control on who the third party is and when.
Sounds quite close to my tendencies, yeah. I used to be very particular about being involved in fox-hunting and vixen-vetting, but now I'm completely comfortable with my man getting pussy where he pleases. This isn't to say that your wife's going to change along the same lines, just to point out that tendencies do change and you should keep yourself up to date on them.

>And the two common themes she likes to go for is her using me, to "teach" an inexperienced girl how to get fucked like a slut.
>Or, she's treating me to a close friend of hers.
>She really really wants me to fuck the vixen's ass out.
Oho! It's those fantasies. Your wife has excellent taste. Good work on paying attention! My man once introduced a vixen to anal; she ended up getting such a taste for it that she bought herself a plug to wear when she went to meet him. Ah, exquisite.

>shed want me to sex her with some porn going on in the background of woman screaming in what seems more pain than pleasure sometimes.
One thing to keep in mind is that when you get really deep into things, pain can often serve as a shorthand for intensity. Again, you should talk to your wife about this - does she really want the other girl to feel pain, or is she craving for you to fuck the other girl so hard that she turns into an incoherent mess?
>does "she" refer to my wife or the other girl?
Yes.

>she finally relented and told me why she wants to cuckquean.
>She feels I am too good for her.
>That she doesnt deserve me.
>She just feels, insufficient.
Life can sometimes seem so unfair, so arbitrary, your own fit in the world so awkward, and the culture's messages on love so disheartening, that you having ended up with the person you ended up with feels like you won the fucking lottery. You question whether it can really be true, but it is, it is!

I wouldn't necessarily treat this as "she wants me to fuck other girls because she feels like she's not enough" so much as "she's so crazy about me that she wants me to fuck other girls" - though you should believe what your wife says over anything I say, obviously. For my own part, I do sometimes feel like I'm not enough, like our being together was some terrible mistake, but that doesn't really factor into my cuckqueaning; for that, I just feel like it would be such a shame not to let others have a little taste of him, and he just has so much fun fucking them besides, like it's something he was born to do. Like everything else in cuckqueaning, the way we experience the reasons for our own fetish differs from cuckquean to cuckquean.

>I am just so grateful youre here to help
You're welcome. I'm looking forward to hearing how things develop!

>>4670
A Merry Christmas to you too! (I can still say it; Christmas lasts until January 5.)

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>>4644
How was your little Christmas vacation, Anon? Everything go alright?

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>>4740
it was amazing.
Returning home now, so cant elaborate, but I had threesomes with wifey and escort)))))

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>>4745
Oho, I see! Safe travels home, then - do fill us in once you're settled.

>>4747
welp, I'm settled asf now.
Living life with a permanent shit-eating grin is the true way to live life.

>>4648
>Cuckqueaning discussion can get very female-focused, so it's important to remember that you, her man, are also a very important participant with your own needs and feelings that need to be taken into account.
I'd been thinking about this a fuckton the whole time.
And I realised that not only is this true, but that I really like it this way.
Other than the fact that ive boned two gals at the same time where both really wanted it, this idea  really resonates because, cuckqueaning is as much for my wife's enjoyment as it is for me.
Seeing her partake in it, being picky about the specifics, her preferences, choosing her pace and everything else, it taps into some hidden "peovider" instinct in me, that makes me feel even more masculine than ever. I dont have much need to tweak anything as I'm enjoying it perfectly as it is, and I find that convenient because I really like to be a tool for her sexual gratification, where I work less on thoughts and more on primal instinct. Just  fulfilling asf.

>>4674
yeeeaaah, we did speak about this and her reply was, she liked it better when her hypothetical vixens had that blanket opaque white mist where their tits should be.
I was happy to oblige
>Enjoy yourself, but don't lose your head.
There is infinitely more chance with my wife losing HER head.
I've consistently been the more level headed and grounded one in this trip.
Which is silly because in our normal life, that's the role my wife usually played.
Do tell me more about the traps and snares.
So far, it feels like nothing can go wrong, and that still makes me anxious sometimes.
Like I can't even get myself to type out the full details of what we did, it sounds so much like the typical fake internet story, but it happened. 
>just to point out that tendencies do change and you should keep yourself up to date on them.
humble brag, but my wife did say ive become hundred times more attentive and affectionate with her than before.
Im constantly asking if she's alright, pecking and patting her head more often, trying to analyse her much more because im afraid she might be worried or hiding something etc.
Yeah, Imma good boy.
>does she really want the other girl to feel pain, or is she craving for you to fuck the other girl so hard that she turns into an incoherent mess?
yes. 
But in addition to that, she doesn't only want the other girl to feel pain, but also trapped. Or...forced.
No point worrying about it anymore tho, I've gotten really really really into it by now lmao.
>Life can sometimes seem so unfair, so arbitrary, your own fit in the world so awkward, and the culture's messages on love so disheartening, that you having ended up with the person you ended up with feels like you won the fucking lottery. You question whether it can really be true, but it is, it is!
Man.... this is so true it hurts.
If our marriage ever falls apart, Im absolutely gonna rope.

>>4755
*"provider"
man, I wonder more about how dudes with a cuckquean gf/wife feel lol

>>4754
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>>4756
>>4757
Sounds like you're well on your way, Anon.

>yeeeaaah, we did speak about this and her reply was, she liked it better when her hypothetical vixens had that blanket opaque white mist where their tits should be.
Well, there you go! That worked out.

>>4062
>>4060
And Im back after... Four months? 
Pretty certain that the situation with "cousin" was moreso that after discussing things the two of them may have decides that it wasnt a good fit; tried to follow up on the whole "she's gonna visit" thing rather recently and wife was incredibly embarrassed about it for no reason.

Things have taken a turn for the interesting.
>occasionally kept up things about her interest but eventually let it taper off
>still tease her, but not nearly as often
>things are fine
>but apparently not
>wife decides to snoop through my emails and more, apparently looking for the other woman who is apparently taking up my attention
>there isnt one
>but apparently something she saw pushed something in her
>have a weird conversation that goes nowhere about other girls and wether or not Id leave her 
>most of it is spent reassuring her and her admitting to having gone snooping
>slightly embarrassed but its not the end of the world
>nothing too weird, Im a normal enough guy
>eventually this gives way to teasing about my stories and her perception of what I like
>alls good
Fast forward two days 
>wife makes the day as overly pleasant
>makes my favorite meal and is overly affectionate
>its the weekend and after some prompting begin day-drinking sangria she made
>eventually get drunk and lay down for a nap
>wake up blindfolded and disorientated 
>wife is saying something to me before pulling me over and into an embrace ontop of her
>oh, time for drunk sex
>pants and more pulled free as Im pulled down ontop of her fully
>suddenly a weight settles on my back
>begin to panic, what the fuck is happening
>who's in my house?
>try to pull away and grab at the blindfold
>wife isnt having it and actually begins fighting me
>"Just ignore her for now and fuck me,"
>completely rattled, no idea what the fuck is happening as Im drunk as hell and barely awake
>feels like someone is pressing close and trying to embrace me from behind while my wife grapples at me and keeps demanding I pay the mystery woman no mind
>wife is effectively got me in a leg lock and forcing me to have sex with her at this point
>all the while the weight on my back seems to increase
>completely lose it, just give in
>drunken situation, arousal, and general shock that she'd do this completely cook my brain
>blow much much faster than normal
>feel embarrassed and she even laughs a little
>"Youre so unfair to me, she better not get a longer turn than me or Illhave to keep you up all night,"
>start to panic as I remember the mystery woman pressing against me
>weight goes away
>wife makes me get up and off, 
>bed shifts as she gets up
>"You better not disappoint her, you have to cum inside."
>bed shifts as weight settles in front of me
>not sure if I should remove the blindfold and see who it is
>weight returns on my back, pushing the pressing me down onto the mystery woman 
>is she actually going to do this? 
>make me have sex with some other woman and just hold onto me from behind?
Nope lmao
>as I got pulled down/pushed down into the embrace I realized what was going on
>the feel of the body against mine was unmistakable
>wife had apparently gotten into the linens and made some kind of faux-weighted mannequin out of bedsheets and our heavier quilts
>there was only the two of us in the room
>and now she was pretending to be some other woman
>wife tries to affect a different voice all while struggling to maintain it while forcing me back inside and fighting what she said later was being anxious
>blanket-mannequin presses down on me as my not-wife leglocks me similarly to before and tries desperately to maintain the voice
>get a mix of desperate pleas for my cum for her, between chastisement for allegedly choosing favorites since Im taking too long to cum now, to her semi-ridiculing me for fucking her while my wife is forced to watch
>eventually blow again
>try to go for the blindfold at this point, but she wont let me
>apparently wants to keep teasing me and continue the situation
>forced to endure a weird back and forth between not-wife, wife, and me about it all while blindfolded and not-wife plays with my now oversensitive bits
>conversation and more seem to go in all sorts of directions and moreso that the current situation is because I and I alone like this sort of thing
My hobby writing had practically no mention of cuckquean stuff nor did any of those old emails... Im pretty certain its a continuation of her worry of making certain things "real", so cuckquean is exclusively my fetish.

Lately she'll even engage in the roleplaying without any kind of prompting as well as rather overt teasing and is clearly feeling this out more. Such as
>have sex
>not even 30mins to an hour later she'll come and demand her "turn" as the other woman
Or
>pretending that as not-wife that we should have a secret quicky or two while wife is out, that wife will never find out and even if she did she'd only be mad about not getting to watch
Or more like this morning
>she asks for a quicky, doesnt initiate roleplay stuff
>afterwards decide to tease her about things while in the shower
>begin on some of the roleplay stuff, implying that shes not-wife and that we should have a secret quicky
>"but what about [wife]? She's still in the house and hasnt had her turn yet,"
>last part slipped my mind at the time, but apparently the number of other girls is now three
"She could watch until its her turn,"
>she goes completely nuts

Going to have a rather direct conversation with her about compersion and what Ive noticed about the roleplayed other women. I dont mind the direction of this at all, but I think we'll need to discuss a lot at length though if shes going to want this to go much more beyond this as it is currently... 
And again, thanks guys.

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>>4768
>wife had apparently gotten into the linens and made some kind of faux-weighted mannequin out of bedsheets and our heavier quilts
Please don't use such racist language on /cuckquean/. They're called linen golems and they've just as much right to be vixens as any other girl.

>"She could watch until its her turn,"
>>she goes completely nuts
>cuckquean is exclusively my fetish
Anon, I...

>>4768
damn nibba, can you maybe like post pics of the mannequin or go into more detail how she made it?

>>4777
Lucky trips says he has to.

>>4768
>made some kind of faux-weighted mannequin out of bedsheets and our heavier quilts
I bow to Anon’s wife who has out ‘tismed us all.

>>4770
Apologies

>my fetish
Im not opposed to it, as a ton of my previous posts show but its not "my" fetish. Having more than one wife sounds nice, but she's clearly into the idea of watching me or thinking about watching me with another woman

>>4777
Sadly no, she's since took it apart to use for the bedsheets. I use the term mannequin loosely. It didnt really look like a person, it was moreso to simulate the sensation and weight of one...
>basically just wrapped sheets around the weighted quilt to kind of bind it into a torso like shape
>then wrapping it in a bedsheet to give a better feel in terms of texture
>being drunk also helped with not being able to tell what was happening properly

Minor update: 
Still havent been able to talk about compersion yet, she keeps wanting to roleplay. Though a lot more of a serious conversation about "this isnt really practical," came up and we'll likely keep this just a fantasy; we wouldnt reasonably be able to tell anyone and forcing someone youre involved with to keep things secret isnt a good thing. Also suggested buying a sexdoll to make me use...

>>4783
I'm a little confused. Did you mean to say cuckquean was exclusively her fetish?

>>4784
Ment more of a sarcastic tone to it, it is her fetish. In terms of how she operates with some of these things its like a weird kind of denialism attached to it until she realizes that its okay. Was the same way when she got interested in Anal. 

Anal was MY fetish. Thats why she secretly bought lube for it, read into extensively, and did everything possible to try to get me interested in it as well while denying that she was into it: likely out of embarrassment as the primary reason. If its too... "Intense" of a kink or theres some kind of emotion attached to it, its magically mine and definitely not hers. No way. 

In this case its because she still seems to think that if she acknowledges it Ill split with the other woman. So of course, its soully MY fetish; nevermind the fact that she came her brains out when I suggested that not-wife would have to just tough things out and only get to watch us go at it... 

Minor update
>she's now slipping into the roleplaying aspect of it far more readily 
>even going so far to tease me about how my wife isnt around so she has a right to my cum

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>>4789
Oh! I understand now. That kind of projection is quite usual, yes, and it's good that her husband understands and can work with it.

>>4790
Foxgirl anonness?
I'm really glad you've been able to help us moods out so much. Thanks to you, we and our wives enjoy sex so much more.

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>>4791
>Foxgirl
Ha, if only!

I'm glad you found my little hints helpful.

>>4789
Update time
>wife kicked off a overly serious conversation about how we should probably stop
>that she was concerned about me leaving/cheating 
>admitted to feeling inadequate and somewhat conflicted over it
>ended up having a rather deep heart to heart
>wife suddenly begins reiterating that itd be impractical to have a second wife and why
>but admits far more openly that she isnt opposed to it
>both of us end up falling asleep in each others arms after agreeing to stop the roleplaying
>fastforward to me being woken at whats basically 4am
>wife is back to the roleplay and has apparently expanded on it
>ask about why the sudden relapse on it?
>"Brooke" tells me to shut up and fuck her before wife gets back
Wife eventually admitted she reconsidered her desire to put this away because she "needed" it. When pressed to elaborate, she gets flustered and refuses.

>Wife is escalating
>Im teased relentlessly about either her or the "Brooke" 
>each one playing off the other wether in the bedroom or not
>wife is now happily able to joke about me having either another wife, a girlfriend, or mistress
>though outright mentioning sex is still kind of a no-no
>in terms of cuckquean dynamics wife is all over the place 
>she seems to alternate between varying degrees of Dom and sub, as well as wanting to be the cuckquean and vixen at the same time wether she's wife or "Brooke"
Effectively, like when shes "wife" wanting to imply that Brooke has to wait and shes only allowed to watch and even eventually clean up after us once were done because thats Brooke's soul purpose as the second wife and what she agreed to do when wife approved bringing her in... Not sure what this dynamic would be referred to. Dominant Cuckquean? 
Theres also an odd bit of seeming to make it like "Brooke" is the cuckquean and that wife is tue vixen at times, kind of interesting.
>apparently each of them has their own desired preferences for sex
>not sure if this is just wife trying to make the roleplay more "real" or if this is a touch of the 'tism and her semi-building out her ideal preference for this kind of arrangement
>"Brooke" is apparently switchy though mostly sub, and explicitly is for submissive acts and such; but occasionally will be Dom but apparently only with Wifes permission
>Wife is switchy and mostly Dom, and is moreso leaning into normal sex and anal; but will completely lose it when put into submissive situations or treated or regarded as a cuckquean
>starting to worry that Ive unleashed a monster 

Just thought Id share

>>4826
I wonder if there's any stories out there about a woman developing multiple personality disorder and having her personalities cuckquean each other.

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I came across this piece of extra art on the MGE Tentacle girl's profile and thought of this board. I don't really have much of an interest in the whole thing, if I was lucky enough to be in a situation where I had two loyal and loving  wives, the most I'd feel was right was one encouraging the other during sex or exchanging banter when it's going to be the other's turn. That or something like the situation being presented in pic related.
The thought of actually shoving out someone I'm in love with and denying them the opportunity to even participate in sex just feels wrong somehow.

I'm a bit of a writer and I'm planning on eventually trying to get a NSFW patreon type thing for my stories set up. And seeing as how this might be one of the things I could be okay with writing about, I'd like to get some perspective on this, if it's not too much to ask.
also I know at least one of you femanons here is the genuine article. Women writers tend to have a similar written style in my experience.

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>>4829
It's not clear to me exactly what you're asking for perspective on, but suffice to say that denying sex to the cuckquean isn't mandatory. Cuckqueaning is us enjoying our men fucking other women; the rest is detail. I recognize the situation in your pic as being quite queany in any case. Best of luck with your smut venture.

>>4826
>Effectively, like when shes "wife" wanting to imply that Brooke has to wait and shes only allowed to watch and even eventually clean up after us once were done because thats Brooke's soul purpose as the second wife and what she agreed to do when wife approved bringing her in... Not sure what this dynamic would be referred to. Dominant Cuckquean? 
>Theres also an odd bit of seeming to make it like "Brooke" is the cuckquean and that wife is tue vixen at times, kind of interesting.
It's not surprising that your wife would scatter her urges through different parts of her fantasy-self and fantasy-others since it sounds as though she negotiates with her desires by turning them into a puzzle. It's not an uncommon way to handle this sort of thing because it a) allows the person to experiment in a way that's (barely) deniable both to them and their partner and b) gives them a source of attention and reassurance from their partner engaging with the puzzle at all.

One of the ways this can go wonky is if the felt reward for wrapping things in dramatic enigmas becomes greater than the need to resolve them. But it sounds like things are still moving, so that's not yet a worry. You're being very observant and understanding, by the way—good work! Particularly commendable is how you're spotting the right moment to give things a little push, which is what she both wants and needs.

>>4838
Thankfully that's not happening, it's moreso settled out to the "three" of us and all of that that entails. No more puzzle, it's mostly just unbelievable and weak denial about how she's totally not into it only to later acost me and engage in the play unprompted. And she's slowly dropping some of the uncommitted denials of it and pushing forward as if it's perfectly normal. Honestly I'm trying at the very least for what she likes, sometimes knowing what to do or say to keep things comfortable in regards to what was, is, really awkward and sensitive for her is kind of a challenge; but we seem to have found a good spot. Also the fear of me running off seems to have disapated a touch...

>>4951
Is it fun for you when your wife LARPs as Brooke? Sometimes it’s kinda hard to tell if the guys asking for advice here are actually having fun.

>>4953
Absolutely, though at times it's a bit of a mix of emotions and a bit overwhelming at times for various reasons. Kind of depends on her mood and what she's wanting to do to. Although it is just as fun when she's herself but Brooke is supposed to be watching or waiting her turn... 

Definitely enjoying things

>>4955 (checked)
Warms my heart.

Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but how common do you think is this fetish among women? And what percentage of the women who are into this are into the quean part and what part are into the vixen part of it. Would it be like a 70% quean and 30% vixen? I would imagine that there are a lot more queans since women tend to be naturally more submissive

I need advice on where I should look to find the /cuckquean/ equivalent of yabbadabbadoo shitposting.

>>4972
>what percentage of the women who are into this are into the quean part and what part are into the vixen part of it
You might be confused. Vixen is just the term for the other woman. It’s not something that most of them specifically seek to be. Most online posts I’ve seen in cuckquean spaces by women specifically naming themselves a vixen/cuckcake/whatever are trying to hock an OnlyFans.

>>4974
Oh, except for one vixen who posted here briefly about taking care of an old flame’s foot fetish. She seemed nice.

>>4578
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hello, it's the guy from here, >>4578, ive been having a lot of fun with my wife. 
Our sex has been amazing (still mostly just roleplay, except on valentine's day where we got an escort again), and all our interactions have been more intense ish. 
Despite what the anonness  I call foxgirl said, I still couldnt stop worrying about 
whether im hurting her or anything like that (im sorry, but you cant change emotional thinking on a whim).
But this just lead to me being more attentive to her in heneral, and outside of sex, we have lots of litttle cute moments like little kisses and nibbles, or just asking if the other person is alright followed by a hug etc. 
My wife has definitely noticed and informed me of how glad she is both verbally, and a lot more physical displays of affection in return, which I for one am also really glad to be receiving. Gibs me really cozy feelings inside. 
Sex has been a lot more animated and passionate too, so thats always a plus. 

Also an interesting story that is somewhat unrelated. 
My wife now loves complimenting her female. friends and relatives with stuff along the lines of "wow youre such an amazing person that i wpuldnt even mind fucking my husband" 
Sometimes even when im around, which definitely gets a kek out of me. 
And even when i am not around my wife loves coming back to me and giggling about how  the person she says this too reacted. Double kek, kek

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>>5078
Wonderful news, Anon. Warms my heart.

>Despite what the anonness  I call foxgirl said, I still couldnt stop worrying about whether im hurting her or anything like that (im sorry, but you cant change emotional thinking on a whim).
I should clarify: What I was saying was not that you should not worry about hurting your wife, but that you shouldn't let that worry get in the way of communication. What you're doing now...
>being more attentive to her in heneral, and outside of sex, we have lots of litttle cute moments like little kisses and nibbles, or just asking if the other person is alright followed by a hug etc.
...is exactly right.

>My wife now loves complimenting her female. friends and relatives with stuff along the lines of "wow youre such an amazing person that i wpuldnt even mind fucking my husband" 
Hell, I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my husband.

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My wife's little sis is very cute and constantly hitting on me in front of her. My wife semi-facetiously has said that she would not mind if I did the deed. 
Should I completely brush it off to protect my marriage or should I entertain the prospect and see what I can fish out of it? In the event that I decide to pursuit I must clarify that THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL I'd go on with it without it being a threesome or my wife being at least physically present during the act (that as you've probably guessed  she might nit be eager to participate in quasi-incest) even if I had her explicit consent, it just brushes off to me as cheating. 
How realistic do you guys think my chances are and if significant how should I handle it?

>>5102
Hard to say without knowing the people and dynamics involved since the whole thing is one big "it depends". But if you're interested in digging a little deeper, playfully escalating right back at your wife when she facetiously approves would be a start. If she semi-facetiously approves, semi-facetiously accept in whatever way suits your comic style, then exaggerate and run with the bit for as long as it's funny. There are lots of ways to do it as long as it's done in a spirit of fun and you're not actually invested in fucking little sis to the point it'll feel awkward.

In all seriousness, apart from any perception of incest, remember that if things can get weird between a woman and a friend she's had her man fuck, the same can apply moreso to sisters. Again, it depends.

>>5102
lol, don't. Just don't. It's probably a trap and even if it isn't, things will never be normal again. Life isn't a porn flick.

>>5102
>>5114
>things will never be normal again
Keep this in mind. Your sister-in-law, once dicked, can never be un-dicked and your wife, once cucked, can never be un-cucked. Even if the latter happily and explicitly consents to the former, you can't see through to how things will be between all of you afterwards.

>It's probably a trap
This also, though it depends on whether your wife's the type. I think setting traps for one's husband and then encouraging him into them is a retarded way to conduct a marriage, assuming you're trying to have a marriage rather than setting up a divorce, but that doesn't mean a lot of girls don't do it.

>>5114
>Life isn't a porn flick.
Most important piece of advice for any nsfw board.

Just tell your wife that she has to be there
to take pics. Works with mine. Except it
frequently turns into an MFF.

>>4955
And update time... 

>Wife and Brooke combo seemingly becoming a mandatory thing
>one night Brooke gets especially demanding, wife takes cuckquean role
>Brooke demands anal
>next day wife seems clingier than usual as well as more given to being horny
>next night Brooke is again, more demanding than usual
>Brooke is going on and on about how Wife is watching
>keeps going on about a ton of stuff
>honestly begin to lose it
>finally demands that I knock her up
> I agree and completely lose it
>wife is overly clingy and incredibly embarrassed about it all
>the next week we end up talking again about how she's worried about things
>Wife claims that she's just uncomfortable with pretending to be two different people
>roll with it because I know that she's  lying about it and I don't want to pressure her
>im pretty certain it's because of agreeing to knock up Brooke
>and likely the anal too
>knocking up Brooke made her jealous (of herself) 
>anal made her jealous because it wasn't her special treat anymore

Good news is that she's finally admitting that this is why and that she's seemingly wanting to bring back Brooke

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>>5160
>jealous (of herself)
I'm kind of impressed.

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>>5161
>>5160
I want to be upset about it, but I can't because it's cute and funny. 

"So we can't do that anymore because you got upset about me agreeing to knock you up after you asked me to because you had pretended to tell yourself it would be hot?"
<"h-hush!"
>we stare at each other for awhile as she clearly stews in embarrassment

>>5161
What would Reimu be like as a cuckquean?

>>5160
What if the ultimate twist to this is that she's not fully pretending and actually had split personality disorder this whole time?

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>>5163
Extremely racist.

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>>5163
I think she'd be a chill sort of cuckquean who playfully berates her man for his immorality while she holds the girl of the moment open for him, and who drinks tea and chats with vixens afterward without batting an eye. She might berate some of them as sexual freeloaders if they failed to donate, though I don't think she'd be especially sincere about it. Most of the time she'd not actively look for opportunities to get cucked - they'd "just happen" as the various inhabitants of Gensokyo took their turn to put a hand in the cookie jar - except for the occasional post-incident denouement where she'd arrive back at the shrine carrying some frilly bitch all trussed up and in need of correction💢💢💢.

>>5165
Now, now, let's not go jumping to any conclusions about Reimu "Say Goodbye To Youkai" Hakurei like that.

>>5170
Given the talk on this board before about Shikeiki, I'm starting to think a thread for discussion on what each 2hu would be like as a cuckquean would genuinely be a really fun thing.

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>>5171
That does sound fun, but there's one problem: It's Gensokyo - where'd their men come from?

>>5181
From the village or the outside.  If we're talking human men anyway.

>>5164
It'd figure tbh, she's practically perfect so of course it'd be something crazy like that to even it all out

>>4764
hello, it's me again.
Might be having a baby, thank God it's my wife that got pregnant and not any of the one time fling vixens

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>>5275
You were coming inside vixens unprotected?

Do any of you fellas have a constant feeling of guilt whenever dealing with any of this stuff? 
My girlfriend let me know how much she was into this recently and I've been trying to get a better picture of it and maybe get more into the fetish myself before we make any kind of leap of actually trying it. 
Hearing her talk about wanting to watch me impregnate her friends is hot, and it's a huge ego boost. I've just always been a one woman kind of guy, and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. 
It's also hard not thinking about the reverse and how it would make me feel even if she's not into that idea at all. 
My penis is willing but my soul is guilty. I keep worrying she's going to realize at some point she actually hates it, and hates me for going along with it. I'd rather just stay stable.

>>5416
A touch yeah. Your best bet would likely to do a test run by getting her hyped about it and then going on a "date". In reality you'd either be going out by yourself or just hanging out with one of your friends, personally I'd do the latter just in case. If when you get back she's upset, or worse, you'll have your answer but be guilt free and able to fix the issue with no real problems. If she's just disappointed because it wasn't real... well, there you go. Just sit down and explain how you feel at length and your apprehensions.

>>5275
>>5283
Lmao

>>5254
Update time.
Wife has finally decided that Brooke can come back from her vacation, but anal is only for her. Apparently agreeing to knock up Brooke wasn't the biggest issue; it was being willing to not keep that special between just us. So... I guess it was my fault? Honestly I should have figured since it's obviously something special according to her and something that Brooke previously hadn't done, let alone suggested. 
In other news, she's become more outwardly clear on wanting to engage in voyeuristic stuff. 
If I want to masturbate, she has to know and be involved somehow if only just to watch/listen.
If I have a sex dream, she has to know every detail all the way down. Even if it's dirty or embarrassing. Especially if it's harem stuff or someone who isn't her.

>>5422
Hmm ... Damn bratty Brooke ...! !! ! Demanding anal from husbant 💢💢 Impregnation correction is needed ... 💢

>>5416
Not really, but I was already used to dominating sub girls, where you do lots of things that you don't want done to you. Just because you like tying up girls who like being tied up doesn't mean you automatically have to like being tied up yourself. It's the same with cuckqueaning.

Getting well acquainted with the fetish before trying anything is a good idea. There's advice about that already in this thread so I won't repeat it except to say that you're dealing with your own cuckquean, not some generic template. Don't feel like you've got to imitate what everyone else says they do, figure out what the two of you do.

As for the worry that she'll end up realizing she hates it... yeah that can happen, which is why you ease in. There's going to be some bumps and scratches along the way even if she's 100% into it all the way through. You've got to trust and work with each other very closely. So if you're worried that she'll then somehow pretend that it wasn't really her idea and then blame you for going along with it even though you were careful to ease into things? If she's that kind of girl then you should be worrying about more in the relationship than just cuckqueaning.

The main advice I'd give to any other guy doing this is to stay cool and always try to do the right thing. You're outside conventional morality so it's even more important to pay attention to this. Always try to act according to your higher nature. Might seem weird to say that about a situation where your girl's asking you to fuck around on her, but remember that this doesn't suspend your need to be able to look at yourself square on in the mirror at the end of the day. Or night.

And just in case you need to hear it from someone else, for God's sake USE PROTECTION no matter how badly your girl thinks she wants you to knock up her friends. If you can wrangle a stable group marriage-like relationship that's going to work all the way through these hypothetical childrens' lives then sure, shoot that shot, but otherwise keep your seed outta the vixens' fertile crescents. And that's to say nothing of STDs, which you never want to bring home with you.

Good luck. Done well, cuckqueaning's something very special.

>>5422
>Wife has finally decided that Brooke can come back from her vacation, but anal is only for her.
Not sure if your wife would be into this, but have you considered pitching to you wife that she go anal only and only Brooke gets to have her pussy fucked? I don't know if she would find it as hot as some of us do, but the idea of only being able to take it up the butt is a huge turn on for me at least. Maybe it wouldn't work as well since it seems she views it as a treat, but that could make for a fun and naughty angle too, as a kind of "careful what you wish for moment"? "Oh, honey, since you want to butt stuff to be your special thing and off limits for Brooke, isn't it fair that getting it in your pussy is off limits for you? That way Brooke has a special thing too, and that's only fair, right?" Bonus points if you're fucking her butt when you suggest it and wont let her cum until she makes a decision.
Though it sounds like she's still figuring out how she feels about all this, so maybe you wouldn't want to suggest that so it doesn't seem like she's being punished for setting boundaries or engaging in her kink in a way that is most fun for her. She's your wife and I'm sure you know the best way to make her feel the warm and fuzzy cucked and loved feelings. I hope you both have a lot of fun continuing to explore this fetish.

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>>5451
>tfw your stupid bitch of a past self didn't autistically establish a cast of alternate characters on whose behalf you can keep getting it in your pussy while at the same time being made anal only

>>5455
Honestly, Anon's wife has her galaxy brain over there playing 5D chess with multiverse time travel to cuck herself in ways I can't even comprehend. Absolute legend, a true quean among cucks.

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>>5449
>3rd pic
>mfw Jesus/Mohamed/Buddha does not approve of touching my vixen

>>5458
Don’t worry, it’s still monogamy as long as you’re touching her to help your husband have a better time. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Heart Sutra somewhere.

>>5283
hello it me again.
Been very busy being a dad.
And uh, I usually don't. But I did a couple times because both neither one specific vixen nor my wife likes condoms. Which is ridiculously ironic, because I personally never minded condoms, but every male friend of mine hates em (and none of their wives/GFs do)

>>5416
yes. I felt really guilty at the beginning, then I got like really really into it for a few blissful months with zero guilt or anxiety, and then it came back.

>>5458
I find it very hilarious that even Muhammad doesn't allow touching vixens.
In fact, in Islam, sex involving more than one man and woman is haram too, so no group sex, and all sex must be under a blanket or cover

I thought the most that the Bible had to say about keeping a harem was that "if you're a preacher then maybe you shouldn't". Women touching or encouraging other women could be a sin too I suppose... in that marriages are meant to be singular, and marriage at that time just meant going into a tent and getting on with the business. So it's implied not to do it.

To be honest even if it seemed that much of a sin, which it doesn't, then I'd be asking why God either made or allowed women to be more lesbo gayfag by nature in the first place. And I'd be much more concerned if the women you're screwing are not married to you (in spirit or otherwise) and you are adulterating them through other relationships. You would essentially be encouraging their disloyal nature to be prevalent within them.

As for talking to a woman about it, I'm not sure they want a serious talk about it. You leading them to wherever it is they want to go gets their buttons pushed in harder. The closest I've seen to an "upfront woman" is them lifting a BDSM whip and saying "gee I'd HATE to be hit with this one" /sarcasm

Women who are direct about it definitely exist but I'd guess they're the odd ones out.

>>5416
You're looking at this from the wrong angle. Monogamy doesn't exist to protect women's feelings, it exists to protect other men from having all the marriageable girls defiled by Chad.  As long as the girls you're banging have already taken themselves out of that pool by slutting it up, you can do whatever you want with them without causing any further damage.

Assuming you're already fucking her, your girlfriend is cheating on her future husband with you.  Why should you treat her better than she treats him?

>>5601
Jesus permitted sin only when intervention would be wrong or when it would have prevented man from learning the lesson through any other way.

If anon deems these women capable of learning by any other means then he should discourage their sin, and not be permissive towards it.

As for why you should treat a woman better than that woman treats other men, weaker or stronger or whatever they are... Have you seen the way that women generally treat men? They aren't supposed to be the arbiters of human conduct. Making them that was a mistake.

The funny thing is, if I'm arguing against reciprocity in absolute, then I still do not know personally when it's being naive or not to leave the fence. I would like to know for my own sake. I've given too much more or too little less before (nearly always too much).

>>5923
Thanks for directing me to the right thread and for the thoughtful post. Apologies for using the wrong word, I'll take note of "cuckquean" as correct over "ee."
There's 100% more to cuckquean than just coombrained wanting to fuck multiple people. There's a reason I've ended up browsing this board specifically over the past few years instead of just seeking out threesome content on nhentai or something. 
I completely understand why there isn't a personals thread too, and the dangers of it. I only brought it up because it was mentioned in the thread that there was something like one in the past. 
But yah, as for my ambitions what you're saying makes complete sense. A guy solely seeking out a partner just for being a cuckquean does sound fishy and isn't any grounds to build a relationship on as the primary driver of the relationship. 
It's not that I'm looking for a cuckquean specifically, chances are fate won't work out like that anyways. 
It's more that there is a place on the internet with people hanging out that are the same kind of weird as me and there's probably a lot more that I'd have in common with some people here besides cuckquean; if we had the same sexual interests in a loving consensual context that's just a nice bonus. 
It's also why I continue to post on /soc/ on occasion even though I've had prospects irl and have relationship experience. There's something about being on imageboards in general that is hard to find irl. I've met so many interesting friends over the years through this medium.     
And I understand being wary of men at large, not just in this context. I'm a highly sensitive person, most of the men in my own life have been trash and I've put a lot of work into myself getting to the point that I let myself cry and feel strong feelings honestly instead of suppressing them. Empathy, family, and community are the most important things to me and it sucks so much that our society largely falls through on them.

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What's the strange feeling I get in my chest and stomach when my girlfriend tells me about what she wants me to do to other women? It's a strange mix of pride, arousal, and love, with something else that I can't really place. It makes me want to focus on her even though it goes against her fetish. We haven't made the leap of actually bringing a second person in yet, but I think that feeling would get overwhelming if I was getting that level of attention from both of them.

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>>6013
It’s a kind of drive toward loving dominance and ownership that no language I know has a word for.

>I think that feeling would get overwhelming if I was getting that level of attention from both of them.
Very insightful. Be careful; the feeling with no name can make you do stupid things if you let it overwhelm you and turn to self-pride. Stay grounded.

Wtf is his problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb-1XnGQHcE

>>5422
Back again to update. Seems like everytime I do it's two steps forward and on to the left, then one to the right and finally one step back.
>Brooke has been rebanished to vacation for the time being
Not particularly sure why, the worry of me running off doesn't make sense and rarely gets any kind of mention so I'm thinking it's a jealousy thing. 
>Wife is now more open about certain jokes or statements
>more willing to playfully act incensed or becoming sexual suggestive when other women are implied to have access to me
>even more demanding of voyeuristic stuff than before
>>5451
Tried, turned into a weird conversation about wanting to watch me and have me but that she deserved more than Brooke
>somewhat considering just invoking Brooke and acting like Wife isn't allowed to know just to see how that goes
>imo it seems like that's what she's trying to get me to do

>>5457
Moreso about convenience than anything. We don't really know anyone we'd be comfortable with overall and would be acceptable to be around the kids as neither of us are interested in... well, flings. If we were going to do this for real, itd likely be on the basis of a proper second wife.

Why is there so much male-tailored pornography on this board if the user-base consists primarily of women?

>>6092
Because cuckqueans tailor themselves to their man.  Or at peast tailors other women to him.

>>6092
Because it's a bunch of trannies larping
What else did you expect?

>>6092
That clearly means most users are men. Any mention of phonography will mostly attract men unless it's two men fucking.

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I don't care if the poster's here are women, men, ayylmaos or dogs. The boards topic is pertinent to my interests, so kindly stop shit-stirring and fuck off.

>>6098
Nobody is surprised that you, a faggot, are delighted by the company of other faggots
What was the point of this post?

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Alright so,  I'm a little hesitant on this one myself and I'd like to get some critique and advice from the pros. I had this idea for a cuckquean-ish fic for Street Fighter, starring our old pal Rufus and his gf Candy. I thought the guy was hilarious when back when I played SFIV, and recently I started reading his character profile to relive some memories when I was surprised by how cute his and his gf's relationship was. I mean look at these quotes:

>"I'll never forget when I first met my girl. It was a rainy day in October and I was on my way home from a fight. Suddenly, this chick came outta nowhere an' was all like "Help!" I guess she pulled a dine an' dash, so I beat up the waiter that was chasin' her!"

>"Candy's really into gardening lately. Ya know those little onion-lookin' things? They kinda look like me? Oh yeah! Bulbs! So, she planted a buncha bulbs in the garden, see? An' before long..."

>"Wanna know what I like most about Candy? Too bad! That's top-secret privileged information, bub! I don't want you fallin' in love with her, too! Not that you could compete, but still..."

>"Hobbies? Karaoke, baby! Can't get enough of it! One time Candy an' me, we rented out a karaoke box for a whole week! That was a blast! We're still payin' the owner for the busted speakers..."

>"Why do women take so long to shop, anyway? Don't tell Candy I said this, but that girl took, like, 2 hours to decide between a couple of blouses that were the exact same color! No difference!"

>"Holy crap! A ninja! A real-life ninja! Candy! Candy, baby, come quick! Get a load of this! A real ninja! She threw ninja stars at me an' everything! Isn't this awesome! Let's get a picture!"

>"I never really believed in destiny until I met my Candy. When our eyes first met, I thought I was gonna have a heart attack! Heck, maybe I did. I don't remember the details all too well."
This one is his win quote when you beat Rose, that Italian fortune teller lady. When she beats him, her line is:
<"You are destined to be with Candy. Treat her well."

>From his prologue
Gas Station Attendant: Hmm... Where'd you say you pushed this thing from? I mean, geez, this is one heavy bike. I doubt I could get it a couple hundred feet myself.

Candy: Well, my Rufus ain't no ordinary man! He's the best fighter in America, ya know! And he's a gentleman! Pushin' me around is no big deal to him. Right, Rufus?

Rufus: That's right! When I get serious, I could push a bike like that around the world seven times over! 'Course, I rolled up my sleeve and fixed 'er a while back. She can go anywhere now! But, uh, just ridin' around ain't gonna give me the thrills I'm after!

Candy: Ooooh! Rufus, I just adore you!

Rufus: Vroom! Vroom! Time to hit the road, Candy! Where you wanna go?

Candy: Hmmm... Lemme see... I'm gettin' a little tired of this desert heat... Got it! Wanna check out the North Pole, baby?

Rufus: I like the way you think, pudding pants! That's the greatest idea I've ever heard!
Candy: I know, right? But I've never been to the North Pole before. You know how to get there, baby?

Rufus: C'mon, Candy. That's a no-brainer! All we gotta do is head due north. Ya can't go any further north than the North Pole, right?

Candy: Wow! You're like some kinda genius!

They're just so gosh-darned air-headed and stupid in love with each other I can't help but find it adorable. Also, Rufus is an example of a wholesome fat bastard, a character type that I'm pleasantly surprised by when it shows up. 
Now you might ask. why the heck would I drag cuckqueaning into this cute little relationship? Well it started when I was reading over those quotes again.

When Rufus wins against Chun-Li, he says this:

>"Phew! What a great fight! I mean, I totally whipped you good! Hey! Don't look at me like that, lady! It so happens that I'm spoken for! The only girl I need is Candy! Take a hike, toots!"

Now of course the logical explanation is that Rufus, being the tremendous idiot he is, misinterpreted whatever look Chunners was giving him. But the idea that somehow Chun-Li would somehow become legitimately attracted to our lovable kung-fu walrus after he managed to pull off a win against her sparked a stupid grin on my face for how ridiculous the whole situation would be. I then had an additional idea for this where Juri witnesses this scene while in the midst of yuri-stalking one of her fight-crushes. Obviously enraged that this fat idiot not only beat one of her targets, but is also seemingly (As it may be that Chun-Li is just complementing the guy) gaining her affections, she would track Rufus and Candy to their hotel and then somehow gets stuck in the closet. Which brings me to the next relevant quote: 

>"I've got a great body, don't I? My girlfriend is all, like, "It bounces around like a waterbed!" She's a real freaky chick, man. But don't get me wrong, OK? I spend plenty of time with my dude friend, too. I mean, bros before hos, right? Am I right? So, anyway..."

Apparently Candy is a freak in bed. So naturally we get the classic scene of Juri being stuck in the closet while Candy bounces on a dick while seeming to defy the laws of physics to fit it inside of her. Juri eventually busts out, does a dramatic swearing of revenge while trying not to let her eyes drop to the scene in front of her, and then jumps out the window blushing like a maiden.

So basically the whole idea would be Rufus valiantly trying to stay true to his best girl while being chased around the world by either just Juri or a couple of different girls in the roster that have gotten the hentai hunger, while Candy slowly gets the idea in her air-head that more girls means more proof that her man is truly number 1 in America.

Any thoughts? Obviously it's going to be a comedy, but how would I not make the joke drag itself out? Not to mention that I still want this to have lewds. Is it even possible to write anything hot with a leading man like this?

>>6101
>Is it even possible to write anything hot with a leading man like this?
Depends on your writing talents, but if you're questioning whether such a guy can be sexy, take a look here: >>5461

>>6091
Update time

Slight push on Brooke and just invoking her was apparently the way to go. But apparently I now have ground rules
>Anal if only for the wife
>not allowed to imply I'd impregnate her
>wife gets to have her turn first everytime
>I'm supposed to treat Brooke like a toy or a bratty girlfriend who needs to be punished, not like a cherished lover unless told otherwise 
Lmao

Also have gotten to further pick my wife's brain about things in regards to certain aspects of what she thinks or seems to want in regards to alot of this as I've slowly gotten her to reveal more and more
>She's thought somewhat extensively about setting me up with another girl
She apparently thinks about this often and even dreams about it, will be checking for more or greater details to see if she knows what I find attractive or what in specific
>she seems to think that Asian or White is the only way to go
>either being lean and tiny like most Asian women tend to be 
>or an extra top heavy White woman who isn't nearly as pearish as my wife, basically opposite body build
>regardless, whatever woman has to be taller than me like she is
For... some reason, she won't elaborate
>she doesn't necessarily want to watch, but she does want to direct 
>both me and the vixen, though mostly the vixen
>other aspects lead me to it being a weird dommy-cuckquean situation
One where I'm in charge of her overall, but when it comes time to fuck the vixen we're both subordinate to her and how she wants it to play out. Her general approach also seems to be a huge mix of hands on/hands off 
Like:
>she wants to guide my hips and control how hard and quick each stroke is, but only if it happened to be for anal
>normal sex is just for watching
>hand jobs are for watching
>blowjobs however are all over the place
>she's unable to determine if she'd want to control my hips as I facefuck the vixen
>or if she wants to hold tight to their hair and slam them down on me
>or otherwise grip my length at the base and help the vixen use me like a lollipop till she, my wife, can get my cum 
>etc etc etc
Though,
>most of her apprehensions and hangups are still about me running off or the other woman causing problems
>and general social issues associated with it all

So likely won't happen, but it is great to understand what she likes and turns her on. Will keep working on things and checking in,

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I wouldn't be comfortable with actively banging another woman I wasn't going to marry, but it would probably be fun to Roleplay something, like that one married guy who's wife has Galaxy Brain level plays on how to keep her fetish going. 
It would also probably just be fun learning how to see the tell-tale signs of a quean and how to tease her about it.

>>4578
yooooo my old post made it!
I'm so glad lol.
Still love my cuckquean wife to bits.

>>6452
Baste.

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>>6452
Based. I take it things are still going well, then?

>>6450
>How do I discover if a girl has this fetish?
If she tells you, presumably within the context of a safe and healthy relationship.
>And if so, what's the best way to deal with this if she does?
Still under the assumption that you are both in a relationship, you talk to each other about it. Discover if there is anything that you are mutually comfortable in, establish each other's limits, and decide if you both want to proceed.
>It would also probably just be fun learning how to see the tell-tale signs of a quean and how to tease her about it.
If you do not already know whether or not someone is interested in being a cuckquean, then you shouldn't tease them about it. And if you do know, then you should be cautious and not say anything that is beyond your current social context with them. Bullying is wrong, anon.

>>6092
Sorry anon, even female-tailored sex fantasies are male-tailored. Part of the charm, really.
Reminds me of a lad who ran an RPG campaign for an all-female group, and agreed to tailor it to their specific tastes. The campaign ended up being about a group of female super-agents working for a gigachad merchant-prince in a Gor-tier world where the weak got sent to harems, and the ugly to the mines.

> “Male fantasies, male fantasies, is everything run by male fantasies? Up on a pedestal or down on your knees, it's all a male fantasy: that you're strong enough to take what they dish out, or else too weak to do anything about it. Even pretending you aren't catering to male fantasies is a male fantasy: pretending you're unseen, pretending you have a life of your own, that you can wash your feet and comb your hair unconscious of the ever-present watcher peering through the keyhole, peering through the keyhole in your own head, if nowhere else. You are a woman with a man inside watching a woman. You are your own voyeur.”
- Margaret Atwood, The Robber Bride

>>6458
It's going swimmingly well.
The last time I talked about wifey getting pregnant turned out to be a false alarm.
But she did end up getting pregnant for real a few months later and I now have a son.
Hopefully I get to have a daughter next.
Our sex life died down a bit, but it's back up again and she's still a cuckquean lol.
What I find more fascinating, is how much more submissive I've become.
And she has changed to, she doesn't like using the term "dominant" but prefers more "motherly, matronly, or matriarchal".
It's mostly beyond our sex life too, she's a lot more confident and mature in everything in a very feminine way.
Even her voice pattern changed slightly. Don't know how to describe it, but it's kinda, KINDA, in a similar vein from going "uwu oniichan" to "Ara Ara".
And of course, instead of just escorts, we now have a full time other woman, who was a mutual friend of ours and is pretty onboard being the vixen.

I know you said how much cuckqueaning revolves around the woman, but I didn't fully comprehend it earlier.
No complaints tho, I'm really loving it.

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>>6515
That's absolutely wonderful, Anon. Congratulations to both of you for bringing new life into this world. And for being able to maintain the cuckqueaning facet of your relationship in the face of life changes.

>>6515
Sounds like it's greentext time.

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>>6515

>>6521
>>6517
Thanks guys.
It is hectic.
>>6518
Well I was never good at that stuff because I mostly just lurked imageboards.
Also being really busy these days.
Is there anything in particular you want to hear about?
Been doing it for a year y'know.
Little humble brag there.

>>6515
>3 days ago
I could've sworn I posted this yesterday...gomen na sai

So, I hope this isn't abusing the privilege of male-posting here, but I need to pose a question to quite possibly the only genuine and mostly sane fem-anons I'm likely to be able to ask it to.
I'm a burgeoning writer, and I have considered doing something like cuckquean content in some of my future stories, but the main thing that I'm trying to do to set my style apart from all the others is combining erotic stuff with real heart. I want to write something that won't make my readers feel hollow inside after they've gone through a story of mine, something that'll make them happy and encouraged instead of feeling a rush of post-orgasmic guilt. So the main thing I want to ask is whether or not any of you would be willing to help me gain some more perspective from the feminine side of things. 

>>6515
Congrats anon. I hope you and your family keep going on strong.

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>>6539
Sorry I forgot how spoilers work here. That "mostly" was supposed to be more of a nudge than an insult.

>>6539
What specifically would you like to know?

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>>6542
Well I've noticed that a lot of the writers that write close to the style I want to have tend to focus more on communicating what their characters are feeling in the moment, emotional or physical.As opposed to  "Muh dik was sooo big" junk Like, what does a girl does a girl get out of something like paizuri? What kind of emotional satisfaction would someone get from that, or how would a girl feel or think during the act? Or at least, why would you find it satisfying to imagine doing it? Basically, I'd like to get an inkling of how to write the female perspective without breaking that character into simplistic porn-talk and how to preserve the human side of why that character would enjoy what she's doing.

>6543
and just to assure everyone that I'm being genuine here, I'll link my work's archive.
https://archiveofourown.org/users/OakyOkay/pseuds/OakyOkay

>>6543
What a woman thinks and feels during sex depends on her particular personality, attitudes, mood, goals, relationship, and so on. If I understand your thrust correctly, you’d like to know what women generally get out of sex acts that don’t directly stimulate them, like handjobs, fellatio, and paizuri?

To invert the question, what does a man get out of cunnilingus or fingering? Out of giving a spanking? What’s he thinking and feeling during these acts? My guess is that he’s mostly focused on his partner’s response (noises, movement, wetness, etc.), on the sensations he’s feeling, on both of their arousal, and on what he’s going to do with her in the next little while. I am reliably informed that men also experience feelings, so perhaps over all of this he’s also feeling proud of himself, or mischievous, or worried, or something else entirely.

In this respect, we are no different to you. When I’m in the mood to give a titjob I love how it makes him feel, I enjoy watching and listening to his moans and breathing, I feel proud of my tits and his cock both, I concentrate on keeping a good grip in spite of the difficulties posed by lube, I sometimes need to shift around if my position’s making me sore, I feel aroused at how naughty the whole thing feels, and so on. There’s so much that I imagine the difficulty in describing it would be cutting through the mass of sensation, emotion, and thought to something evocative and pithy.

>>6545
> I am reliably informed that men also experience feelings
Can you simps stop giving away our secrets to the hoes!?
Please and thank you.

>>6543
Different cuckqueans feel differently.
Personally from what I've seen, it can be sexually exciting to think of your man as a tool, that you can use to inseminate other girls or something.
Like being in charge of your own stud and an eugenics program.
Or a female pimp whoring out her man.
But my personal experience can vary very differently from others.

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>>6539
>So, I hope this isn't abusing the privilege of male-posting here
You're fine. There's a world of difference between someone who feels the self-absorbed need to flaunt their maleness for no relevant reason, and someone who's respectfully asking in the containment thread. You're the latter, not the former.
>I'm a burgeoning writer, and I have considered doing something like cuckquean content in some of my future stories, but the main thing that I'm trying to do to set my style apart from all the others is combining erotic stuff with real heart.
That's a pretty admirable goal. I've been trying to do something like that myself for a while now, but the execution's always been harder than the concept for me. I'll be rooting for you anon.

>>6543
Well, >>6545 pretty much hit the nail on the head as far as my personal feelings on the matter go, but I'll go ahead and try to put it in my own words too.

Performing Fellatio/Handjobs/Naizuri/Etc all generally give me big 'happy that you're happy' energy. That's not to say I don't enjoy the physical sensation of it too, but I don't think I would get any enjoyment if I were doing it to a hypothetical soulless flesh doll. 

Sometimes, it's mixed with a little smug 'ha-ha, made you cum' feeling too. And sometimes, especially if it's a particular time of the month for me, I get stupid emotional and start to cry a little (I do that all the time though, not just during sex). 

Personally, orgasms and 'vagina feel good' aren't at the summit of my needs during sex. I enjoy coitus, but I don't find it to be any more or less special than the buildup or the cuddle-talk that comes after. And similarly, I don't really care if I'm giving or taking during oral/manual sex. General warm, fuzzy feelings that come from being intimate with my BF trump the question of whose glans are being directly stimulated in the moment. I suppose you can extrapolate those kinds of feelings towards my personal take on cuckqueaning, too.

Honestly, if you're finding the physical sensation from a woman's perspective to be hard to describe, you can always fall back on describing the emotional aspect. Focusing on the simple rush of dopamine and the compersive aspect (i.e. happy that you're happy) can be an effective way of writing in-the-moment stream of consciousness. Of course; that's really dependent on whether or not it fits with your writing style, the tone, and the characters you've created.

Do please go ahead and add a 'cuckquean' tag to your work, if you end up writing something high-quality with cuckqueaning in it. If it's any good, we'll be sure to find it!

>>6544
That orc story was rough but fun. Strange to read greentext without the green, though.

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>>6545
>Inverting the question to remind me that men feel feelings
Alright yeah, that's a pretty good point. I appreciate the reminder, I think I've been doing that in some of my writing -I think the best example is probably the back and forth of perspective in the second chapter of the LoZ fic- but it's good to have some confirmation that I'm heading in the right direction.

>>6556
That's a more intense perspective for sure. But I still think I can use it. I had this idea for a Zelda/Link story where Zelda gets super into "Researching compatibility and Repopulation", AK-Obviously-A, being super into watching Link knock up a bunch of women. and I think that your thing could be a sort of comedic final destination for that version of the character.

>>6563
Thanks for the reassurance and the encouragement, I'll do my best.  Honestly I was a little worried that I was going to come off like I was just looking for fap material. Which I guess I technically am, but not in that way Also; Tell me about it! Sometimes getting the emotion I want for a scene or story can be one slick little bastard to nail down right. Have I seen any of your stories? I've been around the webring for a while. And thanks for the insight too, you've practically given me a goldmine of writer's inspiration and understanding. You've probably hit the nail right on the head in regards to what I was trying to convey. The revelation and reminder that, silly as it sounds, my question was it's own best answer is pretty fuckin' funny if you'll pardon my language. That emotional connections are often a greater source of pleasure than just sex by itself is basically what I want my whole thing to be! The buildup and the story surrounding the characters is usually more exciting for me than the actual description of the carnality itself. So thanks again for reminding me of that. I'll be coming back to these posts often when I need some inspiration. and congrats for being in what sounds like a pretty cool IRL ship btw 

>>6564
Thank you, it's kind of fun to just let go and do the writing equivilent of fingerpainting. I hear there's a way on ao3 to change the text colour, but I haven't figured it out yet. And funnily enough that project was just supposed to be a little two part reward for a couple of sketches that an anon drew for me, but for whatever reason it's refused to be finished in any reasonable number of words for such a small concept. I still have to finish the last part!

>>4654
Holy shit anon, your wife wants to pimp you out to inexperienced women

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>>5449
Old files from Cafe (missed the 3D on this one).

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>>2371 (OP) 
Good day, everyone! I'm a guy who's been fascinated by this sort of relationship dynamic for quite some time now and I'd be interested in experimenting with it. 

What are some online spaces where I could reliably meet a girl with this fetish who'd be interested in sort of teaching me what makes girls like her tick, as well as how to be a perfect boyfriend for someone like her?

I think something like that would be an invaluable learning experience for me. Thank you in advance!

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What does /cuckquean/ like most about boys?  I am curious to ask this because, out of every female-centered imageboard out there, it is hard to refute that it is the one that loves men most.

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>>6813
>What does /cuckquean/ like most about boys?
That will be individualized like a lot of things asked in this thread.

As for me: I don't really like boys or men so much as I like my own man specifically. As for what I like about him, that's not something I could neatly divide into constituent parts. He's kind, intelligent, funny, masculine, protective, and knows how to balance being emotionally-available and when to be tough on me. There's also a thousand little intangibles and little moments where we just 'click'. I don't think my tastes are particularly unique in this regard.

>I am curious to ask this because, out of every female-centered imageboard out there, it is hard to refute that it is the one that loves men most.
You are going to have to forgive me because I am ignorant of greater imageboard culture in 2024 and stay off most other boards these days for the sake of my own sanity -- but how many other female-centric imageboards even exist? If our 'competition' per se is Crystal Cafe, Lolcow, and Fujochan (and the dead /fem/ board that was on 8chan) -- then that is a very low bar to hurdle over, if not a bar that's buried underground.

I mean, we have an active (by our standards) thread on lesbian cuckqueaning, and catching at least a peripheral glimpse of other naked women seems to be an unavoidable part of the fetish. And personally, I like looking at pretty girls more than looking at whatever social media's current consensus on what an attractive male is. I'm not sure how much we qualify for high 'loves men' energy compared to normie women elsewhere.

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whats your opinion on foot worship?
what would you think if your man was worshiping another womans feet
not even having piv sex, just some tender kisses and nibbles on the soles, maybe a foot massage, maaaaaybe even a footjob
discuss

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>>6894
Feet don't really hold any appeal for me. Yea, if he's showing affection to another girl that's hot and gets the mind wandering, maybe if he was really into it or she was or something? It's kinda hard to speculate about, the scenario just kinda draws a meh from me.

>>6894
I don't like it and if my man for some reason did it with another woman I'd be mostly confused and unsettled.

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Perhaps an odd question, but I'm curious about this board's thoughts on an Ancient Greek poem.

It's Fragment 31 of Sappho's poetry. Here it is in the original:
>φαίνεταί μοι κῆνος ἴσος θέοισιν
>ἔμμεν᾽ ὤνηρ, ὄττις ἐνάντιός τοι
>ἰσδάνει καὶ πλάσιον ἆδυ φωνεί-
>σας ὐπακούει
>
>καὶ γελαίσας ἰμέροεν, τό μ᾽ ἦ μὰν
>καρδίαν ἐν στήθεσιν ἐπτόαισεν·
>ὠς γὰρ ἔς σ᾽ ἴδω βρόχε᾽, ὤς με φώναι-
>σ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ἒν ἔτ᾽ εἴκει,
>
>ἀλλ᾽ ἄκαν μὲν γλῶσσα ἔαγε, λέπτον
>δ᾽ αὔτικα χρῶι πῦρ ὐπαδεδρόμηκεν,
>ὀππάτεσσι δ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ἒν ὄρημμ᾽, ἐπιρρόμ-
>βεισι δ᾽ ἄκουαι,
>
>έκαδε μ᾽ ἴδρως ψῦχρος κακχέεται, τρόμος δὲ
>παῖσαν ἄγρει, χλωροτέρα δὲ ποίας
>ἔμμι, τεθνάκην δ᾽ ὀλίγω ᾽πιδεύης
>φαίνομ᾽ ἔμ᾽ αὔται·
>
>ἀλλὰ πὰν τόλματον ἐπεὶ καὶ πένητα

And a serviceable translation from Wikipedia:
>That man seems to me to be equal to the gods
>who is sitting opposite you
>and hears you nearby
>speaking sweetly
>
>and laughing delightfully, which indeed
>makes my heart flutter in my breast;
>for when I look at you even for a short time,
>it is no longer possible for me to speak
>
>but it is as if my tongue is broken
>and immediately a subtle fire has run over my skin,
>I cannot see anything with my eyes,
>and my ears are buzzing
>
>a cold sweat comes over me, trembling
>seizes me all over, I am paler
>than grass, and I seem nearly
>to have died.
>
>but everything must be dared/endured, since (?even a poor man) ...
(the rest is missing)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sappho_31

Does any of this sound familiar? There's scholarly debate about the context of the poem, whether it's describing jealousy, the role of the man, the author's feelings toward the girl (the text of line 7 is uncertain, and despite her contemporary status as a lesbian icon the historical Sappho's sexuality is tricky to pin down)... but after lurking on this board a bit I've been wondering if it permits a cuckqueanish interpretation.

>>7201
>>φαίνεταί μοι κύνος ἴσος θέοισιν
GREEKS CONFIRMED WHITE!

>>6813
>What does /cuckquean/ like most about boys?  
They are reliable and convenient workhorse and occasionally also have a horsecock. Generally good to have around.

>>7201
Queany valences aside, Sappho strikes me as a bit of a spaghetti-spiller.

>>7201
Makes me proud to be 1/8th Lesbian [spoiler]from my dad's side[/spoiler].

>>7204
lol, there were several ancient Athenian comedies about Sappho. Maybe that's why they thought she was funny.

>>7216
That is an amazing thing to be able to drop in a conversation. I'm jealous.

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I know that question does not address the majority of the board's userbase but still curious if you crones might be able to answer through gossip and girl talk with your normalfag equivalents since it's somewhat board relevant. 

Women keep pretending that asking for an open relationship or swinging is the same as asking for a FF...FM foursome/manysome as if they did not already instinctually knew the answer. 
A man won't treat, view or think of his partner as lesser for being shared with other women, if anything he might bond even more.
Is it even possible for a woman to not viscerally perceive her man as a cuck and not lose almost every sense of respect and genuine sexual attraction if she sleeps with another man, even more so if he ACTIVELY CONSENTS to it?

Thank ya kindly.